Dont be so harsh on newbies....

[Snowman]

See it's all about how you word your posts, anyone can twist it to fit their opinion or view as you have done by claiming I openly admit to flooding the forum with "rubbish".

Plus I'm fairly positive I have a few likes from you.

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I think you are missing the point lol I don't agree with your little theory about how many people like your posts and I don't think there is any way to truly judge who is experienced enough to be an authority other than reading their posts and the information and facts they provide and then doing your own research on the subject if possible.

The deleted posts I talk about are the ones like in the dusty the bredli scam on gumtree thread, you had posts deleted to but I'm not sitting here claiming your posts were garbage.

says us the guy with less than 50% now hahaha.
Of course there is a way to know who know who the experienced are. It's call common sense. Then there is also knowing who people are what experience they have and how they do things.
Best of luck with life!

 

[Newhere]

Lmao that was a good one snowy, until I checked and realised I'm still over the 50% mark hahaha :lol:

Yep it's easy to tell who has good advice on here and for the record I consider you to be one of them.

 

[Snowman]

Lmao that was a good one snowy, until I checked and realised I'm still over the 50% mark hahaha :lol:

Yep it's easy to tell who has good advice on here and for the record I consider you to be one of them.

I'm just a noob. But have a few good
mentors.

You were over 50%. But our chat has put you under

 

[Newhere]

107 x 2 = 214 lol six posts left mate read it and weep

 

[Snowman]

107 x 2 = 214 lol six posts left mate read it and weep

You sure when I looked it was 102

 

[Cypher69]

Google is also destroying research value i reckon. you can find millions of answers for newbie questions though a lot of the time its contradicting, and the info may be wrong all together. reptiles i believe is a book hobby. buy books and read them, you cant go past a good piece of herp literature. its black and white and doesnt have 100 links to go off tangent.

But that's the point that ended with me posting "noobie" questions. I bought 2 books by Australian authors that specialised in our native frogs...then I google researched everything else I could.
Various opinions contradicted my questions. Whether it was an author of a book or someone's opinion on the internet...I could never get a straight forward answer that I felt comfortable enough to heed their advice.
Hence I posted "noobie" questions in the past here, relying on people's advice who actually had/have experience in housing/caring for frogs.

Just because a person publishes a book on animal husbandry doesn't mean the publishing company is going to check that all his/her facts are correct.

 

[steampunk]

But that's the point that ended with me posting "noobie" questions. I bought 2 books by Australian authors that specialised in our native frogs...then I google researched everything else I could.
Various opinions contradicted my questions. Whether it was an author of a book or someone's opinion on the internet...I could never get a straight forward answer that I felt comfortable enough to heed their advice.
Hence I posted "noobie" questions in the past here, relying on people's advice who actually had/have experience in housing/caring for frogs.

Just because a person publishes a book on animal husbandry doesn't mean the publishing company is going to check that all his/her facts are correct.

I agree with you cypher, I've read books that have different husbandry techniques that also contradict opinions on forums.
But I guess people need to have an open mind. As the saying goes "there's more than one way to skin a cat".

My advice for newbies is that if your research shows that 80% of keepers use certain setups and they don't get problems. Might be worth doing similar setups.

Just my 2 cents


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[eipper]

Books should be peer reviewed.... This basically means fact checked by suitable people. In both my cases I seeked out the most experienced reviewers I could to make sure my content was verified. All it does in the end make for a better book. With smaller books and self published e books the peer review process could be omitted.


In regards to blunt replies..... When people demand information, refuse to look something up don't expect people to write an essay...... I speak for myself but most herpers are very busy, time poor people. Years of stupid questions have left me grumpy and result in blunt replies.


cheers
btw everyone is always learning.......more I learn the more I question

 

[Trimeresurus]

Does this mean I win some type of likes to posts ratio reward?

 

[borntobnude]

^^ No

 

[Darlyn]

What exactly is harsh? Telling the truth?
So many times if people googled their question they would come up with an APS thread with the answer.
That's probably how they find APS in the first place. It is very annoying to post information and get told you are wrong by a newbie
(happens a lot). Also the instances when newbies come in pick up info and share it in the wrong circumstances.
Then experienced people tell them they are incorrect newbie goes ballistic, experienced person gets annoyed, moderators get involved.
So long experienced person, newbie moves on. 1 less experienced person.

 

[RedFox]

I think a recent thread on incubation and dead hatchlings pretty much shows why people can be 'harsh' to newbies.

 

[Red-Ink]

I thought we were harsh to everybody not just newbies???

 

[Ramsayi]

What I have tended to notice a lot over the last year or so is that a lot of people on here seem to be a bit precious.


Far too much tends to be read into matter of fact responses with zero underlaying tones yet some people perceive there is more to the reply than there really is.

 

[borntobnude]

What are you trying to say darling ^^ I don't understand , precious ?

 

[Darlyn]

What are you trying to say darling ^^ I don't understand , precious ?

Ha ha BTBN name is definitely not Darling......anything but.

 

[Newhere]

Yeah I agree with Ramsayi people are too sensitive these days, I blame all the emo music and the skinny jeans if I had my jeans stuck up my bum all day I would be pretty sensitive too.

RexFox I reckon cement must be pretty nice to try and educate someone that won't listen and is rude to him, I don't think that was harsh and in the end he even explained how to eliminate condensation from the tub, harsh would be just telling em to get lost from the get go.

 

[RedFox]

Cement wasn't harsh at all. He was a lot more level headed than maybe the OP deserved.

My point was the OP's attitude and responses is pretty much why people can be short with newbies.

 

[tahnia666]

Yeah I agree with Ramsayi people are too sensitive these days, I blame all the emo music and the skinny jeans if I had my jeans stuck up my bum all day I would be pretty sensitive too.

BAAAHAHAHAHA. Gold newhere!!!


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[smeejason]

My rant
Everybody is to over sensitive. I think it is because everybody gets an achievement award these days . No one is ever told they are bad at something.. Of course you never think you are wrong when you have never been told you are or ever been bad at anything in your life.
I cannot believe how precious the generation coming through as young adults are these days. Christ I am not even 40 and I sound like a 80 year old talking about youngens these days but in one generation the gap is massive. But it is more frightening that a young person stands out cause he thinks for himself or can be told they just messed up rather than being the whinging lazy one that stood out a generation ago.
My kids hate this generation cause the cop my lectures (rants)from me after dealing with gen y apprentices and how if they turn out like that I will beat them.