Gay marraige, Yay or Nay?

[firedragon]

i believe in it is free world to treat people as you would like to be treated,the freedom of speech etc etc but with marriage there is usually a product of marriage and that is children, educate me on how would these children grow up besides being harassed at school because there parents are not the standard couple. i ask this question because i would like to know, better to understand than to judge.

These days there are plenty of children being born out of marrage.. I believe it's not entirety the kids fault as to why they tease and harasse it's the parents for teaching them to judge and discriminate, and as i have noticed working with kids, mean kids usually tease anyone thats different not just kids of gay parents. I know a few gay couples and there kids are wonderful and no different to kids from a hetrosexual marrage or relationship

 

[Jonno from ERD]

Tell me about it mate, my old man was fat AND hairy, I copped it twice as much as most.

 

[gillsy]

G'day Kandi,

First of all, marriage and having children are two different things. Lots of have people have done one without doing the other, it's quite common.

Second of all, how is it any different to kids copping a ribbing about their parents being fat, hairy, asian, black, disabled, overprotective or driving a Volvo? Kids are going to cop a bit of crap at school no matter what.

Yes but a child's parents driving a volvo wont cause issues with the P&C and other parents being small minded and pathetic about not letting their kids play with the gay parented kid.

Kids will also tease and be teased, but once gay parents come into the scene, it goes all the way up to mum and dad.

I didn't say that very well, but you get my gist.

 

[falconboy]

I think we need to have a gay aps night. PM me if your interested.

Isn't that descrimination against us straights? :lol: I can imagine if I piped up and said 'Lets have a straight APS night' :lol::lol: LOL

I will say I'm surprised and pleased that so many of you are game enough, on a herp forum of all places, with its fair share of rednecks, to publically announce your homosexuality. Good on you.

However, I can't quite understand how anyone can resist a hot long haired blonde 18 yr old girl in a short skirt. :lol: Yummo.

 

[gillsy]

Isn't that descrimination against us straights? :lol: I can imagine if I piped up and said 'Lets have a straight APS night' :lol::lol: LOL

I will say I'm surprised and pleased that so many of you are game enough, on a herp forum of all places, with its fair share of rednecks, to publically announce your homosexuality. Good on you.

However, I can't quite understand how anyone can resist a hot long haired blonde 18 yr old girl in a short skirt. :lol:

Why should I worry, I'm on the committee of two herp societies, a mod on this.

All these people know i'm gay. Most of my straight friends are from the herp community.

I have never had any anomosity from the herp community except one, and he was in chat.

Only every saw him once.

 

[gillsy]

I don't know how you can go past an AFL player,

 

[mblissett]

Isn't that descrimination against us straights? :lol: I can imagine if I piped up and said 'Lets have a straight APS night' :lol::lol: LOL

I will say I'm surprised and pleased that so many of you are game enough, on a herp forum of all places, with its fair share of rednecks, to publically announce your homosexuality. Good on you.

However, I can't quite understand how anyone can resist a hot long haired blonde 18 yr old girl in a short skirt. :lol:

LMAO - I knew that would be in there hehehehe....

Rednecks - have not met anyone on here that is a redneck - yet lol
I have been out of the closet for 7 years now...... No way I am jumping back in anytime soon..... people try to push you back in - just makes me act more flamboyant!!

Personally I can't quite understand how anyone can resist a hot blonde 20something yr old guy without a shirt in a fireman outfit!!!! lol

 

[falconboy]

Why should I worry, I'm on the committee of two herp societies, a mod on this.

All these people know i'm gay. Most of my straight friends are from the herp community.

I have never had any anomosity from the herp community except one, and he was in chat.

Only every saw him once.

Thats good to hear.

 

[Hetty]

Tell me about it mate, my old man was fat AND hairy, I copped it twice as much as most.

But he wasn't a volvo driver! it's a whole different league.

Yes but a child's parents driving a volvo wont cause issues with the P&C

How many parents are actually involved in that kind of thing? Mine both worked, never went to meetings, never helped in the canteen.. any of that sort of stuff. And I'm no worse off for it.

 

[Jonno from ERD]

Yes but a child's parents driving a volvo wont cause issues with the P&C and other parents being small minded and pathetic about not letting their kids play with the gay parented kid.

Kids will also tease and be teased, but once gay parents come into the scene, it goes all the way up to mum and dad.

I didn't say that very well, but you get my gist.

G'day mate,

I know what you are saying, but I wouldn't see it as the catalyst for a gay couple not having children. There are several circumstances where parents become involved. I remember when I was a kid, a mate wasn't allowed to ride his bike down a certain street because aboriginals lived there. You'll get small minded, ignorant people everywhere (there's over 20 in this thread!) but letting them influence life-changing decisions is only letting them win.

 

[falconboy]

Personally I can't quite understand how anyone can resist a hot blonde 20something yr old guy without a shirt in a fireman outfit!!!! lol

I'm trying not to picture that, I just ate. :lol:

 

[Saz]

Of course it should be made legal. It's ridiculous that it isn't already.

I haven't seen one decent argument as to why not, I was thinking about countering all the 'nays', but I don't have the energy.

I will say though that plenty of people marry without procreating, and unfortunately a lot of people that should never be allowed to pass on their genes pop offspring out like a tennis ball machine. Go figure.

 

[firedragon]

I was married once complete waste of time and money. Was a good day though, got to see some family i hadn't seen in ages

 

[falconboy]

I will say though that plenty of people marry without procreating, and unfortunately a lot of people that should never be allowed to pass on their genes pop offspring out like a tennis ball machine. Go figure.

Well said - I've been engaged to a female for 8 years (can't you tell we are in a hurry) and I couldn't think of anything worse than having ankle biters.

 

[Hetty]

I don't know how you can go past an AFL player,

Tall toned and OMG the arms.

Rafael Nadal pwns any AFL player.

 

[mblissett]

you know the funniest thing of all.......

I got my mum hooked on this thread - now everytime I laugh she comes in


What did they say, what did they say lmao

 

[Saz]

LMAO!! We have been for 12 years...soooooo can't be bothered with it, but people are really hassling us now, so we'll have to get it over with at some point.

Well said - I've been engaged to a female for 8 years (can't you tell we are in a hurry) and I couldn't think of anything worse than having ankle biters.

 

[Recharge]

yea, cause children otherwise don't get picked on right? not for being a different colour or inter racial parents or being fat or skinny or bad at sports or anything else.. right? right?

it's one of the biggest fluff arguments I've seen thus far in the anti gay parent threads I've been in.

kids will be no more or no less picked on that any others.
and wit the growing tolerance in society, it's going to be far less of a problem than people seem to imagine it could be.
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I don't see how that is Recharge, in the cities maybe. But there is still a very high percentage of homophobia.

And really I don't see how your qualified to answer on the behalf of society.

Oxford street, the gayest street in Australia, and very close to the world. We still have weekly gay bashings. How can this be tolerent.

 

[falconboy]

LMAO!! We have been for 12 years...soooooo can't be bothered with it, but people are really hassling us now, so we'll have to get it over with at some point.

Problem is mate, instead of being asked my our parents 'when are you getting married?' all the time, it will be 'when are you having kids?'. I fix that one - I just say to my parents 'before you die - when are you going to die?' LOL :lol:

 

[Saz]

Kids are insecure, hense they feel the need to 'bully' others to ensure that there are others lower in the 'food chain'. Therefore they will find something to pick on. If you bring your child up to be confident and understanding, you're not going to have a problem.

LOL Falconboy! I've copped my fair share of "where are my grandchildren??" lectures, at which point I usually whip out a snake.