Opinions on dogs

[Moreliaman]

I am far from "look at me im ard" retards, i have had my staffy for 10 years and he is as pathetic as the day i bought him. HAve you ever kept a staffy? I walked as a vet nurse and the dogs i always got bitten by were smaller dogs like jack russells etc. I would take a staffy any day.

Simone.

If you read the post properly it clearly says " Staffies & rotties here (in the UK) are usually (meaning not everyone!) owned by the "look at me im ard" retards

Jeez....some people should read before they shout their mouths off!!

Yes ive owned a staffy.....happy now?

 

[FAY]

If this thread becomes a name calling fest instead of a sensible debate with good, constructive information..I will have to close it.

 

[Kitah]

Smaller dogs naturally seem to have longer lifespans than larger dogs... we have two dogs at the moment, a 16 year old female australian terrier x and a male 14 year old maltese x louchen, whilst my grandparents have a german shepherd x female that is about 11 years old, and she is showing signs of her age far more rapidly than our two. Our 16 year old female is totally deaf, but besides that she still plays, eats well, and is healthy, and Shadow, the 14 year old male still has intact vision, hearing, plays, is active and everything. Im not saying that all small dogs outlive older dogs, but that usually seems to be the case.

I really dont like the designer dog breeds, and the names for them are also rediculous. it seems to be a craze, i wonder how long it will last.

Signed that petition too
"I am currently an 18 year old veterinary science student who has a genuine passion for animals and am strongly focused on the proper care and well being of all animals, both those kept domestically and of wildlife. I am sick and tired of people making impulse buys at petstores, where they later discover the animal is no longer a cute little puppy/kitten, or no longer fits into their lifestyle, or the novelty of having a pet just wears off. I urgently want the sales of mammals to be ceased in petstores, and there should be more regulations governing the sale of such animals. In addition, another method I believe would be appropriate is the cumpolsary desexing and microchipping of all dogs and cats sold for pet purposes, to prevent breeding where the offspring are not wanted and are dumped or killed. Serious action needs to be taken to save the lives of these animals; To many they are our lifelong friends and companions, but to others they are simply an object to be bought, sold or disposed of when wanted."

haha.. I sometimes get worked up about things like this, and that was me in a controlled rant...

I knew about the white sheps too; not being able to be registered as a GSD because white is not an acceptable colour; rather unfortunate i think... cant wait until they can be registered as a different breed, like they are in many other countries.

 

[Midol]

Well after that reading midol....i must have known 2 amazing dogs that somehow defy veterinary science !! My ex's father had some weird cross breed (god knows what it was!! i think it was a shi.tzu x poodle) but that died at 23 yrs & my friend had a lab x collie that lived for 21 years....im not saying they all live over 20 years remember !! lol...but thats 2 i know of that lived long lives.

Yes its sad to know dogs are put down for behavioral issues, which is sometimes the fault of the owner & not the dog... people need more training than dogs.....
Im happy with my vet, i dont think he's an idiot...judging from his knowledge it shows he spent 7 years training !....he's not on TV either !!

Lol, not all vets are idiots. Of course some are allowed opposing views than mine and I respectfully disagree with him. Some are idiots though.

And yeah, there are mutant dogs in every breed Beagles shouldn't live till 20 either. It's weird. Good blood and a good environment, the latter being incredibly important. Your dad must have treated his dogs very well.

which shires?

I havent heard of any in QLD

it is stupid to ban any breed, it comes down to there upbringing, they should just ban stupid people

You'll have to give me a little while to look into it for you, but QLD is the worse state for BSL. The NT has no BSL. I don't remember what other states are like but I'll go find the info for you.

I am far from "look at me im ard" retards, i have had my staffy for 10 years and he is as pathetic as the day i bought him. HAve you ever kept a staffy? I walked as a vet nurse and the dogs i always got bitten by were smaller dogs like jack russells etc. I would take a staffy any day.

Simone.

Staffys are lovely dogs, but there are morons attracted to them which is why they are on the BSL board. Not saying it is right as I obviously don't approve but they do tend to attract those who want "tough" dogs.

 

[Midol]

I can't find specific shires but these breeds are all banned somewhere in QLD:
Bull Terrier
Bull Mastiff
Dobermann
German Shepherd
Anatolian Shepherd
Greyhound (+ crosses in some areas)
Great Dane
Rhodesian Ridgeback
Maremma
Neapolitan Mastiff
Rottweiler

These breeds are banned Aust wide:
*dogo Argentino
• fila Brasileiro
• Japanese tosa
• American pit bull terrier or pit bull terrier
+ Presa canario


People ignore BSL because it doesn't effect them but that first list is growing fast, and is incomplete - more and more shires are jumping on the BSL bangwagon because they THINK the community wants it.

I'm still looking for more detailed info.


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EDIT:
Mount Morgan
Anatolian Shepherd
Bullmastiff
Dobermann
German Shepherd Dog
Great Dane
Maremma
Rottweiler

Burdekin Shire
Bullmastiff
Dobermann
German Shepherd Dog
Rottweiler

Kingaroy
Dobermann
German Shepherd Dog
Greyhound
Rhodesian Ridgeback
Rottweiler

Kilkivan
Dobermann
German Shepherd Dog

Peak Downs
Greyhound
Neapolitan Mastiff

McKinlay, Douglas
Greyhound

Mackay
Neapolitan Mastiff

+ all the aust wide bans. Those breeds there are also incomplete.

 

[FAY]

Why would they ban a Great Dane for goodness sakes? What are there reasons for that?

 

[Jacqui]

I agree that mixed breed dogs live longer than pure bred.. but living to 20 years old.. not in our vet practice..
euthanasia is a big part of any clinic and we would do many in a year and the average age of dogs would be around 12-16 years cats on the other hand can live to 20 years old [SIZE=+0]. it just depends on their life style and breed and owner.. what ever the breed you decide on i am sure it will be loved and cared for.. all dogs are awesome and need lots of love and care[/SIZE]

 

[Midol]

Why would they ban a Great Dane for goodness sakes? What are there reasons for that?

There is no good reason for it, I assume a Great Dane injured someone a while ago. then the newspapers whipped everyone into a frenzy. You see some of the effects of the media right here on APS when people are discussing an aggressive snake sometimes people will make comments like "as aggressive as a pitbull" and then I always have to interject. People don't realise it but little comments such as these can really be detrimental to a breed. You also see people calling Danes monsters and such because of their size but monster has a negative implication so also works against the breed.

Obviously saying things like that is human nature and people aren't meaning to contribute to the demise of a breed but thats how much of an influence the media is having on dogs

Breed bans aren't created rationally

When you get a spare 7 minutes watch this youtube video:
[video=youtube;jaK2nbi-NTM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jaK2nbi-NTM[/video]

It highlights the dangers of using the 22 point test to determine pitbulls. Many breeds can be falsely identified as a pitbull through this test - it shows some breeds and how many points it matches. From memory anything over 16 is a definite pitbull and 14 requires further investigation. Many families have had their pets killed because of this messed up test that has been discredited in court - but not every family has the $20,000+ to defend the charges. Thankfully a few dog orientated lawyers offer cheap services when it comes to BSL and rescue.

This reply was probably longer than you wanted

 

[Earthling]

Weimaraner is a beautifull dog that could suit your requirements. I had the joy of befriending one at work in Darwin. Lovely dog that is extremely intelligent and a wonderfull nature. They have short hair for ease of looking after. Still a large dog with most being 60 to 70 cm tall. Not beefy though like pitbulls etc.
All round nice loyal guard dog. Remember though, socialising is number 1.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weimaraner
Wiki says:The Weimaraner is loyal and loving to his family, an incredible hunter, and a fearless guardian of his family and territory.

Hope this helps you steer away from those 'orrible germans ( ask a vet)

 

[Moreliaman]

Keep posting midol, atleast its interesting stuff your posting. (just be nice though......fay's already been in once with her huge whip!:shock
Fay why ban great danes eh....soppy things !

Good choice earthling, i was considering one of those, nice dogs....although i read that page you put up & found some shocking info !!

The Weimaraner was an all purpose family dog, capable of guarding the home, hunting with the family, and of course, being loving and loyal towards children. Interestingly enough, when the dog was still used for hunting, its instinctual hunting method is to attack the prey's genitals to bring it down:shock::shock:

(i thought weimaraner's were german ?? no ?)
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[OdessaStud]

If Great Danes were under that classification in Kingaroy why was I not informed of this when i had my young females cherry eye (not genetic) fixed.We walked past shire officers,past the shire offices and through the vet system.Sorry but Ive been into the kingaroy shires records and Great Danes are NOT on their list of dangerous dogs.Midol noone likes a no all especially if they have only been around for a shorter time than they have ( get my drift) youve made your point and at the end of the day whatever dog is right for the purchaser at the time will be bought.Congrats on your extensive knowledge but I think you have made your point and now let it be this is after all a snake forum first not an argument about breeds of dogs and who is right or who is wrong.I love my danes but had a xbreed from the age of 5 up until he turned 21 and he was a shelter dog that cost mum $6 and was my best mate.Now ive got pure bred danes,chinese cresteds and a cross bred pom so i love em all, they all deserve a good loving home, lets at least all agree on that
Picture of Bindi with a baby chicken unfortunatly the chicken died too much loving from Bindi

 

[marty]

i recon you can't go past a neo masstif. mine is 2 years old and weighs in at 69.75 kg. no body enters our yard. he is as gentle as a lamb with the family. not aggresive with strangers but makes sure you understand he is keeping an eye on you.

 

[kakariki]

Why not contact your local animal shelter & ask what dogs are there. That way not only will you get a new friend but you can help clean up someone elses mistake. Lots of dogs are put down each year purely because they were bought without thought. That cute little puppy who is not quite as cute as he used to be or the one who was given as a gift to someone who doesn't want a dog. It gave as a warm fuzzy knowing that we saved someone who didn't deserve to die just because he started to grow...& grow.......& grow!!!!! :shock::lol:
Aragorn 22 months old Great Dane X Bull Mastiff [nickname Fluffy!!!]

 

[noidea]

can't bet a staffy most loyal and protective dogs but yet so great with kids.

 

[Duke_jensen]

I can't find specific shires but these breeds are all banned somewhere in QLD:
Bull Terrier
Bull Mastiff
Dobermann
German Shepherd
Anatolian Shepherd
Greyhound (+ crosses in some areas)
Great Dane
Rhodesian Ridgeback
Maremma
Neapolitan Mastiff
Rottweiler

These breeds are banned Aust wide:
*dogo Argentino
• fila Brasileiro
• Japanese tosa
• American pit bull terrier or pit bull terrier
+ Presa canario


People ignore BSL because it doesn't effect them but that first list is growing fast, and is incomplete - more and more shires are jumping on the BSL bangwagon because they THINK the community wants it.

I'm still looking for more detailed info.


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EDIT:
Mount Morgan
Anatolian Shepherd
Bullmastiff
Dobermann
German Shepherd Dog
Great Dane
Maremma
Rottweiler

Burdekin Shire
Bullmastiff
Dobermann
German Shepherd Dog
Rottweiler

Kingaroy
Dobermann
German Shepherd Dog
Greyhound
Rhodesian Ridgeback
Rottweiler

Kilkivan
Dobermann
German Shepherd Dog

Peak Downs
Greyhound
Neapolitan Mastiff

McKinlay, Douglas
Greyhound

Mackay
Neapolitan Mastiff

+ all the aust wide bans. Those breeds there are also incomplete.

where did you get your information? because this is all I could find on the Kingaroy Council web site.

American Pit Bull Terrier
Dogo Argentino
Fila Brasileiro
Japanese Tosa

 

[Duke_jensen]

This is all I could find from the mount morgan council

The following dog breeds are recognised as a dangerous breed:
□ Rottweiler
□ German Shepherd
□ Great Dane
□ Doberman
□ Bull Mastiff
□ Marrena
□ Anatolian Karabash

A dog is also declared as dangerous if it is”
□ Of 60kg or more
□ Higher than 1100mm in height
□ Used for the hunting of wild game

A dangerous dog must not be in public without a muzzle.

Doesn't say you can't have them just says they have to wear a muzzle in public.

 

[GraftonChic]

The correct signage for legal purposes is
NAme of whatever breed you have then DO NOT enter without owners supervision.
NEVER put Beware guard dog this came from a very high up ranking police officer. I have a cattle dog x Kelpie barks a treat. Very loyal, I also have a kelpie puppy, also barks. Maltese cross poodle, thinks its a huge dog and always makes people take a step back. Drawback she has long hair, so I keep it short. Also have a Jack Russel.

 

[Rosemary]

I dont think you can beat the working dogs, especially a cattle dog. I have had a few of these over the years, they are the most loyal dogs out and protective!!!

 

[Lesa]

i recon you can't go past a neo masstif. mine is 2 years old and weighs in at 69.75 kg. no body enters our yard. he is as gentle as a lamb with the family. not aggresive with strangers but makes sure you understand he is keeping an eye on you.

I have an Australian Bandog which is a hybrid from the Neo - bred to be a little smaller - my boy is only 65kg. They are a beautiful breed aren't they? Wouldn't change him for the world. I did have a huge argument with our local council though. Becuase he was a Bandog they wouldn't beleive he wasn't part pitbull and were charging me dangerous dog rego. Had to have many "discussions" with them. I won though, they refunded me 2 years over charged rego and gave me this years free - so I was happy.

 

[$N@K3$]

I have a German Shepard and he is the best natured animal and if some 1 comes into ur yard dont they get in trouble not the dog even if it attacks themhttp://www.aussiepythons.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=39903&stc=1&d=1200270653