Scott,
That male is looking superb!! Looking at him now, I really think I should have kept him! LOL Oh well hopefully I will get some more this season.
I was trying to leave this thread to it's own devices, I didn't really see the point to it, when Scott knew exactly what the animals are and why the hell would I want to sell coastals as jungles when these days coastal morphs can fetch much higher prices than any jungles available today???
But, obviously since Scott has chosen not to respond to my PM asking about the whole point, and this thread seems to be getting way off track, I guess I am forced to make a few things clear...
Funny how time changes people’s attitudes… When these guys were first hatched there was a thread titled “hypo jungles???” started not by myself, but by Mark Sim, in which Mark and I both had hatched some of these different looking animals and many people saw and commented on how these were possibly something new and were accepted as such. Only time could predict the result of these animals development, as well as if they would hold true. They were basically red jungle hatchies and they were the first Mark, myself and many others had seen of anything like them, thus the possibility of them being Hypo (reduced black) jungles.
The animal that Roger posted is an attractive animal, but is nothing like these animals. If you look at the pic Roger posted when comparing to the juvie pic of Scott's male you can clearly see that Roger's animal has a solid black pattern, while Scott's is very light and has no solid black patterning at all. In fact no one has yet posted anything really like these animals. Well actually Saz has posted theonly animal that even resembles this animal of Scotts.
Here is a pic of the male as a hatchie prior to Scott getting him, this pic was taken after his second shed...
Definition of HYPO is a reduced level of black from the norm, not a complete lack of black pigment, that is an albino. So these animals are certainly fitting by definition.
For those that think they look like coastals, here is a typical type jungle clutchmate, and it is clearly quite obviously a jungle! A nice one, with good colour and normal amounts of black, as it is at now just coming onto a year old. Clearly these "possibly hypo" animals are different.
Further, these animals were not advertised at all, they were animals I was keeping as they were different. But recalling the fact of you wanting something different and NOW... combined with constant hassling is what lead to the purchase of these animals. It was from constant hassling and asking for morphs that led to these. You paid a premium price on them as they were so different. Anything new always has a higher price tag attached to it, that is true of any animal. Still they were only around the cost of some of the quality B&W animals around, which for a possible new morph is more than reasonable.
I did say they were hypos as they appeared at the time, and in comparison to all the other jungles I had hatched or seen. To me they are still considerably different to the norm and YES until they fully grow up and are bred, we will not know what they will produce and how the mutation expresses itself. BUT... this was pointed out very clearly and discussed in detail, prior to you buying them. It was your choice to try something that could be new, fully knowing the fact that until they grow and get bred the true "morph factor" would not be known about them.
Clearly you have issues now, whether they have come from other's influence on you or not I can't say, but I have my suspicions. I certainly regret selling them to you since you obviously don't appreciate having had the opportunity to own something a little unique. I take offence to having you making subtle insinuations throughout this thread, when you knew exactly the position I held on these animals prior to you purchasing them.
Zac
