monkeyboy
Not so new Member
Sometimes I’m almost ashamed of being Australian. We spend all this time arguing over ridiculous stuff like this, whilst the Americans and everyone else just gets on with it. No wonder we are so far behind.
All you people up there on the moral high ground, think about this; if you have a snake in an enclosure, you have no right to object to this practice or virtually any other practice involved in the breeding of captive bred reptiles. Everything we do is an improvement on nature.
Ever stop to think that the reason a snake lays 15 eggs in the wild is because chances are a Lace Monitor will knock off 10 of them, Kookaburras will get 2, 2 might get squished by a Kangaroo and 1 will survive? Does that mean that the 1 survivor is the chosen one, some sort of super snake and the only one of it’s clutch worthy to breed? Or maybe it was just lucky? Do you think it was the only one with an egg tooth?
These are no longer wild animals. We keep them in a box so they are safe; we ensure that their temps, humidity, UV range, diet etc is perfect. We even spend a lot of time and effort to make sure that the rats that will eventually feed our snakes have the best of everything, I will only give mine filtered water for God’s sake, do you think a snake in the wild has the luxury of only preying on the rats that have the correct body mass index?? Hell no, in fact, chances are at some point they will come across a rodent with a belly full of ratsack and then it’s light out for both of them.
So if you’re going to be a purist, be one. Release all your animals and let nature take it’s course. Otherwise, welcome to the world of reptiles in captivity, where it’s really ok to use an incubator, or cut windows in the eggs, or change that blown heat bulb, or use a thermostat, or enclose our animals from predators, and then at the end of all this, it’s actually ok to make some money from this work. Just because it’s your passion, doesn’t mean you have to feel dirty about making money out of it.
The fact that others are willing to share their knowledge should be applauded, especially since they do so knowing full well the wowsers are going to have a go at them over it. Carpetpythons.com has done more for the hobby than most with this thread. The only way we will develop and learn is if more people share info like this, and hopefully the naysayers and negative vibe merchants will be out looking for their freshly released animals to see how there doing and wont be around to stifle the progress....
Thanks CPca for starting this thread, and good luck with the bubs.
Respect,
Steve.
All you people up there on the moral high ground, think about this; if you have a snake in an enclosure, you have no right to object to this practice or virtually any other practice involved in the breeding of captive bred reptiles. Everything we do is an improvement on nature.
Ever stop to think that the reason a snake lays 15 eggs in the wild is because chances are a Lace Monitor will knock off 10 of them, Kookaburras will get 2, 2 might get squished by a Kangaroo and 1 will survive? Does that mean that the 1 survivor is the chosen one, some sort of super snake and the only one of it’s clutch worthy to breed? Or maybe it was just lucky? Do you think it was the only one with an egg tooth?
These are no longer wild animals. We keep them in a box so they are safe; we ensure that their temps, humidity, UV range, diet etc is perfect. We even spend a lot of time and effort to make sure that the rats that will eventually feed our snakes have the best of everything, I will only give mine filtered water for God’s sake, do you think a snake in the wild has the luxury of only preying on the rats that have the correct body mass index?? Hell no, in fact, chances are at some point they will come across a rodent with a belly full of ratsack and then it’s light out for both of them.
So if you’re going to be a purist, be one. Release all your animals and let nature take it’s course. Otherwise, welcome to the world of reptiles in captivity, where it’s really ok to use an incubator, or cut windows in the eggs, or change that blown heat bulb, or use a thermostat, or enclose our animals from predators, and then at the end of all this, it’s actually ok to make some money from this work. Just because it’s your passion, doesn’t mean you have to feel dirty about making money out of it.
The fact that others are willing to share their knowledge should be applauded, especially since they do so knowing full well the wowsers are going to have a go at them over it. Carpetpythons.com has done more for the hobby than most with this thread. The only way we will develop and learn is if more people share info like this, and hopefully the naysayers and negative vibe merchants will be out looking for their freshly released animals to see how there doing and wont be around to stifle the progress....
Thanks CPca for starting this thread, and good luck with the bubs.
Respect,
Steve.
