richardsc
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glad to hear its your cherished pet addy,glad u r keeping him to,and if u want to make a little money down the track there is nothing wrong with that,good luck with him and will be nice to see his adult coloration
albino eastern water dragon
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This guy is offering me a free enclosure., i am trully complimented by the offer, thank you. But considering it comes insackly 10 minutes after chimera cautions me on who to trust, i must ask, why?. i obviously have an enclosure for him, but not one for breeding purposes. I mean, are you made of lizard enclosures? because i am not made of albino water dragons.
If your offer is genuine, i'm sure we can make an arragement, there isn't much that comes free.
If your offer is genuine, i'm sure we can make an arragement, there isn't much that comes free.
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Auzlizardking
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Quote: or the appropriate enclosure.
I thought you didn't have a very good enclosure to house him so I was trying to help out.
You need to pick it up though and I don't care if you feel I'm after EWD.
I was joking with your mate in an earlier post.
I do give my enclosure away (same times) or donate them.
I thought you didn't have a very good enclosure to house him so I was trying to help out.
You need to pick it up though and I don't care if you feel I'm after EWD.
I was joking with your mate in an earlier post.
I do give my enclosure away (same times) or donate them.
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and if you don't wanna make money....
i'll give you $50 for a baby and give it an awesome home.
Well i just don't expect to make money out of this project. Look at it this way
1, i don't believe in keeping 1 meter lizards in 90 cm cages. i spent a small fortune custom building his current enclosure. a 2 meter fish tank with a divider mid way so i could provide will with 50% land 50% water. and the tank stand, and other peices, lamp, pump etc. It adds up. And soon he'll out grow that enclosure.
2, i want to keep a strong blood line, so i won't be breeding children back with the parent, then to another sibling, then that child back to a parent or any rediculous combination like that. No wonder you hear of unreasponsive albino beadies that need to be put down, who's cruel show is that? keeping a strong blood line means adding at least 3 other unrelated water dragons into the equation. And i have to house them all in enviroments that allow them to develop.
3. My friend NJlocksmith is my partner in this project and he too will need to cover costs for time and resources.
Australis
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Did you breed it? or catch it?
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MrBredli
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Well if you don't line breed you're not going to end up with any albino hatchlings.. it is the only way to do it.
This project will be expensive and time consuming, making a profit that i can boast about is dowbtfull. and consider that people will not pay the large figures that were thrown around at the reptile expo and this forum. especially when next season there will be a new batch. And how could anyone actually ask for such a price? seriously. and who has ever paid of a house breeding reptiles?.. yes i need to make enough to justify the room it will take up in my house and backyard, and yes NJ and i need to cover costs. But i am soo not making the fortune people think i'll make.
i know i have to line breed!...duh!!!!, but not line breeding siblings to parents for 3 generations then selling them off in pairs so the next guy can do that same. where does that trend end?
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MrBredli
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You breed the female siblings back to the father so that you get your first albino hatchies. They can then be bred with unrelated normal lizards producing 100% hets with new blood.
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Ok, thank you mrbredli. But can any of you see the trend of inline breeding i am trying to avoid.?! Just to let people know i did study genetics as apart of biology at school, and still have my notes. And just to keep me up to date i have a friend with a degree in enviromental science and now i have this forum. not to mention i did actually breed the thing to begin with. So i should be ok.
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Not really, the problems associated with the albino Beardies are not related to inbreeding. Reptiles can be inbred for many many generations with no ill effect.
Ok, cool. lets just skip the debate. and can we also skip this "you caught it didn't you crap". Can someone please tell me how many albino reptiles they have viewed in the wild? considering they have less chance of making it to adult hood. there seems less chance in catching one.
to continue i understand that people want albino water dragons on the market fast, so do i. And if they are going to have my name attached to them i want them all healthy. So, with no mass breeding experience myself, i want to be carfull.
to continue i understand that people want albino water dragons on the market fast, so do i. And if they are going to have my name attached to them i want them all healthy. So, with no mass breeding experience myself, i want to be carfull.
Nice lizard.
MrB. is correct, the problem with albino beardies is (I pressume) because there is a deadly recessive allele closely linked to the albino locus hence all albinos die because they are also homozygous for the deadly allele. It's indirectly related to inbreeding but only occurred by chance basically so it was very unlucky and it's very rare in herps to have these mutations. The chance of your albino having the same problem is extremely slim.
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MrBredli
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Different answers to what questions?
Who did you buy it off then??
Your not denying that you caught it either just asking us to skip this point.................
I refuse to believe this is legitimate as if you were able to get a hold of this lizard, a few other people around these forums would have had to oppurtunity to get a hold of this over you.....
Should have just kept this quiet for a few more years eh?
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