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PilbaraPythons

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For anyone who is interested, take a look at the complete clowns who post on the site Aussie sand snakes. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aussieliersandsnakes/message/55
For some reason this bloke who goes by the silly name of secret squirrel thinks that he has had a conversation with Pilbara Pythons here on APS. He claims that we told him we wiped clean an area of reptiles and were proud of the fact and we said the area was hillbilly hill.
This guy clearly has us mixed up with somebody else as before today we have never ever heard of , nor have we ever had any form of communication, with this idiot who is defaming us publicly. The other clown who has joined the band wagon is Daniel who I believe was kicked off this site recently. Daniel clearly thinks that we are Pilbara Snake Catchers(womas4me). And here is some of the proof. Viewers should understand that my smart **** comments were actually four separate answers to four different smart **** posts by himself. Daniel has taken upon him self to bundle them together to make it sound like one post from us in response to a post that he made to Pilbara SnakeCatcher ( womas4me).
This man clearly has lost his last slithering brain cell.

Daniels post
pilbarasnakecatchers,

Who are you calling a clown? I was probably keeping reptiles while
you were still sucking milk from your mums tits! Or at least before
you were keeping them... Not that that really matters.

If you would like to know, the first reptiles I owned were wild
caught, and collected by myself. And it doesn't take a brain surgeon
to figure out that all captive reptiles decended from wild animals.
What I am arguing about is the export rules! It's all about greed
and the mighty dollar! I am not totally against taking reptiles from
the wild, especially for you guys in WA as you are not allowed to
import from other states. What I am saying is, all animals taken
should be put into breeding programs and their progony sold to WA
keepers, then after a few years, you won't have to take so many from
the wild anymore! But no, you prefer to sell interstate for big
$$$$$ where there is a bigger market for them!
And all you can come up with is "Still good to see you clowns making
up stuff as you go, especially in regards to exporting." Would you
like tell us your thoughts on exporting or was that the best you
could come up with?
And to this comment - "Probably see you in the line for CB wa
womas" - No sorry mate, you won't be seeing me in line because I
already have my own! And you probably should be calling most of the
young "CH" instead of "CB". And incase you don't know what "CH"
means, it's captive hatched, not "bred"!

Look forward to hearing from you.

Daniel


http://australiantropicalreptiles.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?
topic_id=983&forum=16&start=40
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> pilbarapythons Re: Please explain .. woma vs bhp
>
>
> No we don't feel good about all the hard work in catching 30
woma's.
> Thats because it wasn't hard work. We do however feel good in
> knowing that we have 30 woma's and you do not and never will. Suck
> Eggs
>
> And who said we didn't make huge profits not me pal.
>
> Now let me think about that one Daniel. Um um am I clever ? 38
> womas, 62 blackheads, 5 greenpythons,74 stimsons, Albino olives,
36
> jungles,and own two houses um um. Yeah ! I think I am clever.
>
> Any way its now getting dark over here and I must go and snatch
some
> reptiles from the bush so good night kiddies.
 
Looks like my secrets out now, no more stirring with you getting the blame. Never occured to them to ask who i was.
 
The lastest update is that the site has now removed many of the posts in question. Probably the ones that were defamatory I suspect.
 
thats disgusting..

shame to see so many complete fools out there.. im mean "suck eggs" what is he 2!

such a shame to see these people can hold so many animals with out being thrown in jail.. ALERT THE AUTHORITIES!!
 
ok well after reading it all, all i can say is im confused! are pilbarapythons and pilbara snakecather the same person or fdifferent people?? Theres alot of mixed up minds on that site..

Anyways I m just glad things arent that bad on this site which i certainly prefer!!
 
What I do like about that site is the kids corner. It for little kids to post. I think it would be a good thing on this site as well.
 
I must admit I read the thread and laughed at most of the replies, if the snakes are collected and kept legally under the WA system I have no problem.
I did laugh at the fact that one of those involved kept asking me about day old chicks and promising to come and get some after advertising that he wanted them and I have never seen him. Oh well, that's why I like this site :)
 
I'm just curious, where did the jungles come from? I didn't think you could keep them over there but i could be wrong.

The way you reply to people isn't going to win you any friends by boasting about how many reptiles you are taking.
Can i also ask is there any limit to what you guys can take? When will the collectting stop?
 
:twisted: New you were a troublemaker pilbara :evil: and same goes for that other little troublemaker womas4me :twisted: Read some of that dribble on trop reps and you didnt once mention the rack systym for torturing knob tail gex to get imformation and what about the new womaspilbara NW casino due for completion in mid july did you tell daniel about that. :twisted:
 
dugadugabowbow
Who ever said that the jungles were held over here?
Who ever claimed to have collected the amount of reptiles mentioned?
That is the point I have been trying to ram home, never be too quick to jump to conclusions or make judgment without researching facts or by at least asking questions.
We don't make a habit of boasting to any body about reptiles currently owned, and you are right in saying that this won't win you any friends; however we had no desire to win the friendship of somebody who before our first ever post to him had already publicly condemned us with baseless assumptions.
When participating in a public forum I am normally serious and polite to every body I post to, and expect the same in return. On the other hand if someone is sarcastic or rude without valid cause or just reason, I will not be serious and will dish out crap by the bucket load. That attitude might be, or seem like to some, a demonstration of immaturity or lack of self control, however like or hate it this is what makes up part of my character whether or not it is to my detriment.

Cheers Dave Mackintosh
 
And yes oldfella I probably am a trouble maker. When I went to high school in New Zealand I reckon I just about had the school record for the number times I was caned on the ****. Gee those days were cruel.
 
I also noticed they jumped to conclusions about exporting for profit when they don't even have a clue Dave!
 
Dave,it seems like you have had a lot of mud thrown at you and to a degree other west aussies today,you have a right to be upset about it mate.It seems some people think they give you a licence over there and turn you loose on unsuspecting wildlife which cant be further from the truth.I read through the regulations over there and it is strictly controled and policed and anyone that thinks you fill bags with gravid womas and perthensis etc and sell them off for massive profits is dreaming.Ive worked out the profit on a west bluey for eg if you sell one for 250 you first have to pay roylty to gov and gst, staff ,petrol .other overheads and then more tax and the buyer interstate pays at least another 250 fees which makes it hard for you to do much business interstate,right!! The government in WA is doing the smartest thing cause if they dont legalize and control wild taking it would happen anyway without supervision and knowledge.Goodluck to you dave and other west aussies.
 
The facts remain that we have only ever sold two woma's an adult pair for $4000. and a pair of BHPs for $2000. No other Aspidities have ever been sold or offered for sale. We have however given away free, one adult woma and two bhps. It doesn't take Einstein to work out that we are more interested in establishing future breeding programs to make this venture worthwhile. This also doesn't mean that we won't sell BHPs or other species to the public if they so desire, because at the end of the day do have to pay bills along the way. Huge Profits Where!
 
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