Something thats bugging me

[scorps]

I have noticed alot lately, newbies posting threads about an animal there interested in asking a lot of questions because there genuinly interested about learning about these animals and there doing there home work, then members shutting them down saying "If you need to ask these questions your not ready" or something similiar.

Isnt that basically what this website is intended to be. A helpfull forum where members can pass there knowledge on to other members, I beleive in the end its going to come down to a point where people will be to scared to ask a question in fear of getting blasted by everyone

A silly question is better then a silly mistake and alot of questions about a herp is better then a dead animal because the member was to scared to ask


Just my little outburst

Ben

 

[Sel]

Agree!

As long as they havent bought an animal, and then come asking how to look after it..i think thats what most people have a problem with.

 

[JAS101]

i agree to a point- BUT there is alot of info out there on this forum , by doing a search they could find the info they are wanting .

 

[scorps]

i agree to a point- BUT there is alot of info out there on this forum , by doing a search they could find the info they are wanting .

That is true, but its human nature to want a personal responce

 

[JAS101]

That is true, but its human nature to want a personal responce

lol yeah , i just think its a shame when there is all that info through out the forum that duznt get used when pepole cant be bothered to search or when they just dont know to . maybe there needs to be a sticky posted asking to do a search before posting a question ?.

 

[Riggsy]

Ya hit the nail on the head there....

This is a great site to get some info and then go from there to more in depth books and or courses etc. I too think some are too quick to jump down the throats of some that are merely asking a few question for research. Sometimes it looks like those with the experience are just show boating about how much they know....but where did they get all their knowledge? Probably by asking someone a lot of questions then doing some more research...

However...there are also a lot of newbies that will be very quick to get an animal first then start asking questions later or wait until there is a problem with the animal then post a panic "Please help!" thread. Or they get one species and keep it for a while then think they have enough experience to keep something larger and more challenging.

It's all too easy to sit behind an anonomous keyboard and have a go at someone without having to face them. And it's frustrating to see someone making the same mistakes someone else just did a few weeks earlier.

We should all give out helpful answers to questions where needed and also suggest some constructive advice when they're not heading in the right direction.

 

[Daryl_H]

said quite well. only point ill make is its never good to see someone with little/no exp asking about the lace monitor care cause they just brought one. (freaks me out when people get crazy animals that they should have more exp b4 owning, due to the danger) and feel they need a bit of a shake up to understand the power/danger of the animal

 

[GeckoJosh]

I agree, but I do get a bit annoyed when someone has gone out and bought an animal without even bothering to find out simple things like diet and heating requirements.
It doesn't mean we shouldn't help them, they obviously need some good advice lol

 

[JAS101]

I agree but I do get a bit annoyed when someone has gone out and bought an animal without even bothering to find out simple things like diet and heating requirements.
It doesn't mean we shouldn't help them, they obviously need some good advice lol

i agree , and then u get pepole who post in the threads who havnt even owned the animal/s in question giving advice .

 

[Nighthawk]

Then again I believe people also need to take into account the ease in which some animals can be purchased. Simply speaking it's simple to get a license and simple to purchase a python or lizard from a pet shop, but not all sellers (particularly pet shops which don't specialise in any particular animal), take an interest or offer advice to new owners. Then, once purchased, the newb would soon discover it's not as simple as 'tank and feed'. There are quite a few people who seem quicker to lash out than advise, when a simple explanation would usually suffice, and make said newbie less inclined to ask in future. If advice had been previously given then ignored I would understand the 'not ready, what an idiot, poor animal' take, but if it had been insinuated that the animal in question was simpler to take care of than is actual fact, I rather think it's not the new owners fault and fully encourage them to come forward and ask questions. Better that, as has been said, than a dead python and somebody who has now been put off ownership because of the cliquey attitude *very few* (definitely not trying to cause an argument or offence here) seem to have in the trade.

 

[slim6y]

C'mmon Ben - you've been here for ages - you know how it works... don't you?

Firstly - a big note must prove their worth by shooting down a little guy - that's important, it often refers to their hemi size.... (of course).
Secondly - If a 14 year old asks a question - they have to be stupid - because the search function is so adequate.
Thirdly - if an argument doesn't form then the question wasn't asked correctly - they should re-ask it till an argument forms.

I can't remember ever being new - but I've learnt not to post in the 'help' section - because it won't matter how many times I tell someone they don't need to treat their branches that only seconds later a recipe with a cocktail for destruction is posted on the same thread...

No matter how many times I refer to the killing of toads as cruel and unnecessary - that some smart alec believes torture is the only way to rid us of the pest.... Which incidentally isn't as much of a pest as once thought says R Shine.... Printed in New Scientist....

So... Ben.... This is where we're at... we either have a big hemi... and need to boast about it to feel good about ourselves... or... we just sit back and have a giggle... because that's where the fun begins...

 

[GeckoJosh]

Lmao Slim6y

 

[scorps]

Nailed it Slimey

how you been anyway mate?

 

[the jungle guy]

couldnt agree any more but it is a joke how some members instantly flame down some one for asking or telling them use the search function which isnt so crash hot, this is a public forum and any should be able to ask what they want when they want dont like it dont reply yea i agree something are really annoying and is a joke but still public forum

its the ones who buys the animal then wanting advice is the problem not the ones searching and gathering as much info as they can before they purchase a reptile we should be encouraging this not flamming them down if only more people did research

my 2 cents

 

[scorps]

Yeah, I dont really care if someone goes out buys a python then posts something along the lines of:

" I just bought a gtp, its not feeding, do they need heat?"

if someone does that feel free to flame them

 

[slim6y]

The problem with opinions is - everyone has one.... most are useless (except for mine) and some are just outrageous or even dangerous.

My opinions however are:

1) Relevant

2) Factual

3) Correct

4) Inspirational

5) Correct

6) Divine

7) Correct

8 ) Beautiful

9) Intuitive

and...

10) Correct

So - anything I say is obviously correct...

The one thing that pees me off more than anything though - is when I say/write something which is blatantly obvious, 100% correct and totally the only possible solution - then some utter complete twink of a plonker writes something else - which is clearly 100% codswollop, useless and the only possible solution that would be completely incorrect....

So - reality unfortunately exists on a plane somewhere between internetland and the etheral plane of gondwindallbundypogswollopton....

 

[Wally]

Sorry slimey all your credibility flew out the window last weekend when you got on the Saints.

 

[Nighthawk]

The problem with opinions is - everyone has one.... most are useless (except for mine) and some are just outrageous or even dangerous.

My opinions however are:

1) Relevant

2) Factual

3) Correct

4) Inspirational

5) Correct

6) Divine

7) Correct

8 ) Beautiful

9) Intuitive

and...

10) Correct

So - anything I say is obviously correct...

The one thing that pees me off more than anything though - is when I say/write something which is blatantly obvious, 100% correct and totally the only possible solution - then some utter complete twink of a plonker writes something else - which is clearly 100% codswollop, useless and the only possible solution that would be completely incorrect....

So - reality unfortunately exists on a plane somewhere between internetland and the etheral plane of gondwindallbundypogswollopton....

"I was only wrong once, and that was when I thought I was wrong, but in actual fact I was right" lol

 

[slim6y]

Sorry slimey all your credibility flew out the window last weekend when you got on the Saints.

All Saints credibility went out yesterday with my dreams of ever supporting them again... go the GOLD COAST!!!! WOOOOWHO!!!

(now that should have got most of my credibility back)....

 

[scorps]

All Saints credibility went out yesterday with my dreams of ever supporting them again... go the GOLD COAST!!!! WOOOOWHO!!!

(now that should have got most of my credibility back)....

Mate the real grand final starts this afternoon