Urgent!!!! Very sick childrens python :'(

[longqi]

peritonitis is usually caused by an infection
often from things like a damaged rib entering stomach cavity
usually hits pretty hard and fairly fast compared to other reptile problems
usually a lump near gut that just gets bigger and nastier
needs very urgent attention or will be fatal

99% sure your baby does not have peritonitis
rest and recuperation is best now

dont sweat the feeding
snakes can go a long time without tucker
sick snakes rarely feed
just make sure it has access to fluids and keep it warm as you are doing

 

[jacinta78]

Got the Maduka Honey off a friend today have applied it.

BUT!!!! so excited! ALADDIN ATE!!!! YAY! YAY! YAY!

Was only 2 small pinky rats as to not stretch his mouth. But he ate!!! so excited.
He is looking better today not as dry and moving faster

THANK YOU SO MUCH TO EVERYONE WHO HELPED AND GAVE ME SOME GREAT ADVICE......
Have tried to call vet but can't speak to them as yet. Will call back this arvo

THANK YOU

 

[Nighthawk]

Brilliant news Jacinta

 

[MontyTheBredl]

snakes are hardier than most people think. he will be just fine, keep up what your doing because it seems your doing a great job

 

[Gruni]

Funny I didn't even think of the range of uses for Maduka honey. Great news Jacinta.

 

[stimigex]

Its actually Manuka honey, Leptospermum Scoparium or Leptospermum Polyglaifolium.
It come from a few isolated regions in Australia but it predominantly
found in New Zealand.
It has great antibacterial properties and facilatates new tissue growth.

 

[Fantazmic]

Hi Jacinta

Ive read through the whole thread.

Something you asked you didnt get a reply to was what sort of thermometer you should use.

I have a infrared thermometer..it looks like a gun. I bought it on ebay quite cheap it was like $20. I cant see a brand on it but it is black and yellow. It is one of the best husbandry tools I ever bought.

You can zap any part of he environment the snake is in including the snake itself to test temperature.

Last night I touched my babies heat mats as I was cleaning them out (they are in click clacks) and I thought they dont seem like they are on. Checked the thermostat and it said 30 degrees according to the probe etc. I thought it doesnt seem right...though I dont know why I didnt think it was given I was in a strapless dress and not even cold. Anyway I just grabbed the temp gun and tested the temp and had piece of mind.

Also with your heat mat...be very careful people have had fires. I use a habistat heat mat and I know they are more expensive but the cheaper ones can be very dodgy. I have the heat mat set up on a towel and then a plastic click clack on top. The click clack has no weight in it so the heat mat is not compressed if that makes sense.

I was only asking last night about larger plastic tubs and starmaid make a 52 litre and a 115 litre which are also appropriate for snake enclosures and would be fine for a little stimmie and are very cheap.

I honestly think long term you should think very carefully about continuing to use a glass tank for Aladdin. They are notorious for being very hard to regulate temp in because of the glass and you can end up spending more than you need in electricity bills. The starmaid site have pics of their tubs and they are really nice. Bunnings also have good tubs if you want something longer and flatter. Just make sure that you dont get a click clack with wheels on the bottom it creates too much of a gap between the bottom of the tub and the heat mat and you cant get the heat into the tub. Also try to get something as see through as possible so you can see inside and not have to open the lid to check on your snake all the time.

There is a thread on here that is a sticky (i think it is in herp help up the top) called how to build a click clack. I promise you if you follow the instructions to the letter you will have a wonderful house for aladdin that is nice and warm that he can thermoregulate in.

We just upgrade sizes of the click clacks for our babies as they grow (and as we save for some snake palaces)

I also dont like hides I use paper towel as a substrait. If the snake wants to hide they can go under it and it gets changed every time it is dirty. It means that they cant really go off on their own without me seeing them, yet at the same time they can snuggle under the towel (mine have been known to make a nest with it) and they are warm clean and dry. Others may disagree with me but I have four healthy jungles to show for this method and my two adults have basking shelves and have now got 'used' to not hiding and sit on their shelves watching us and sizing up our dogs as they run past every day. They are both relaxed and thriving. I remember Brian from the herp shop telling us when we first started "no hides" you need to be able to keep an eye on your snake.

I hope this helps you. Its a lot to take in.


Elizabeth

 

[CrystalMoon]

I hope your snake has pulled through, sometimes we're damned if we do and damned if we dont. I would dislike very much to be in you and your snakes position.
Kind regards
Crystal

AAhhhh I should learn to look before I leap lol.... I am so glad Aladdin is on the mend and eating
I am really glad you got such wonderful help(I am not surprized though, most only want to help )

 

[longqi]

Its actually Manuka honey, Leptospermum Scoparium or Leptospermum Polyglaifolium.
It come from a few isolated regions in Australia but it predominantly
found in New Zealand.
It has great antibacterial properties and facilatates new tissue growth.

It is pretty cool stuff
We use it a fair bit on wounds

 

[Striker]

Any update on him Jacinta?

 

[Gruni]

What did the herp vet say?

 

[Reptile_lover83]

I know a lot of ppl have said not to feed live but in actual fact, it's illegal to feed them live prey
As you would know, a lot of pythons go off their food when they're going to shed so perhaps this is why he went of his food.
What area are you in? I know a few herp vets around Sydney but you can also google for herp vets.
Good luck

 

[J-A-X]

I know a lot of ppl have said not to feed live but in actual fact, it's illegal to feed them live prey
......................

how many times does it have to be said.... live feeding is NOT illegal. it IS however inhumane to both prey and captive animal and should only ever used as a last resort in order to save a starving individual and should always be supervised and the prey removed if the predator shows no interest.

I'm not having a go at anyone for doing it as there are times it is no doubt needed. I'm just fed up with people waving the "illegal" flag when its not.

Jacinta sounds like she has had a harsh lesson in 'learning by your mistakes' and has seen the error of her ways and is attempting to correct a dreadful mistake. Lets not make matters worse by making her think that she has acted illegally when she hasnt.
I hope that the patient is still on the mend.

 

[Reptile_lover83]

Thank you to everyone who has commented, I will be doing a lot more research and learning a lot more about my snakes. this has taught me a huge lesson.

Firstly Aladdin made it through the night! yay! still not out of the woods though

Everyone who mentioned thermometers is there a certain one anyone recommends or special snake one ??? or just use a normal kid one?

He is in a glass tank hand has been all his life so i didn't think it would worry him now. plus I don't want to have to go buy a new enclosure.

I will just be offering dead food from now on if he takes it good, if he doesn't i won't be concerned. I will however be checking my snakes daily to make sure i see them and they are fit and healthy.

My tank has been directly on the mat for 3 years, but i will make sure i raise it now. he does have hideaway places in his tank to he can feel safe and warm.



He always has water in his enclosure, but i have put an extra shallow bath in there in case he wants more. I have to take him back to the vet in a week if he makes it through.

Hi Jacinta, there are many different types of thermostats - digital and analogue. I have both and I have mine connected to ceramic heat lamps (the turn the lamps off and on automatically depending on the temperature). I'm not sure if they can be used with heat mats (I'm sure someone that uses mats can tell you) but if not, then perhaps a heat lamp with a thermostat attached may be the way to go.

Good luck

Those photos uploaded today disturbed me. I'm glad I didn't see what it was like previously.

I'd suggest you read all the previous posts on this thread. You comments are completely inappropriate and unnecessary!

how many times does it have to be said.... live feeding is NOT illegal. it IS however inhumane to both prey and captive animal and should only ever used as a last resort in order to save a starving individual and should always be supervised and the prey removed if the predator shows no interest.

The reason I stated that it was illegal is because it is illegal to take any creatures life (in NSW anyway). I'm not even kidding! I wasn't having a go at Jacinta (geez she seems to have copped it), just merely stating.

 

[notechistiger]

I suggest you read all the previous posts because I have already had input on this thread I have been following this thread avidly and can't give any advice that hasn't already been given. I don't think my comment was inappropriate at all. I think laying into someone that has already had a very hard lesson learned is inappropriate and unnecessary.

The reason I stated that it was illegal is because it is illegal to take any creatures life

That must make it very hard for vets there. Have any evidence for this (or where it is on paper)?

 

[Chanzey]

How in the world can this be true? So no one goes fishing and takes fish home? No one goes hunting for pigs/deer etc?

 

[J-A-X]

Killing a protected species is illegal unless you fear for your life (EG: venomous snake) . Killing for sport is also illegal without permit (EG: duck hunting)
These are the only "illegal" killings I'm aware of

 

[Fantazmic]

so how about Aladdin...can we hear about him and howhe is going ?

 

[Striker]

Yeah anyone who read this will be curious I'm sure...

 

[thesnakemaster]

you must find a herp specialist vet or i suggest putting it down you might hope that it pulls through but more likly its just dieing very slowly i am truly sorry but you must do what is right for the snake