Yeah, it's not Liasis stimsoni, Liasis maculosa, and Liasis childreni, it's the Liasis childreni group.
I thought the genus is Antaresia ??? Liasis are water and olive pythons.
Yeah, it's not Liasis stimsoni, Liasis maculosa, and Liasis childreni, it's the Liasis childreni group.
no they would be natural hybrids, intergrades are NOT hybrids.
wow it really seems no one knows that an intergrade is, there is a great stick on the topic, look it up. Intergrades are not hybrids and hybrids can be either man man or naturally occurring (which is when they are called natural hybrids)
so what if you own two different snakes and they escape there enclosures and mate... is that natural or man made due to the fact that they would not have met if man did not own them???
so what if you own two different snakes and they escape there enclosures and mate... is that natural or man made due to the fact that they would not have met if man did not own them???
I thought the genus is Antaresia ??? Liasis are water and olive pythons.
no it doesnt. It means an intermediate grade; transitional form, the transition form or intermediate grade between coastals and diamonds are port macs which are also known as intergrades, the name is fitting to the specimens but it seems no one knows the true meaning and people believe that "intergrades" are hybrids
Got a link to the sticky , I cant find it ... I'll stand by my comment too
I just looked up the Henderson's Dictionary of Biological Terms and Oxford Dictionary of Zoology and the term intergrade is not even listed. Herper's jargon, that's all. Sorry hornet.
Oddly the DECCW 2011 NSW current species list has stimsons under liasis, however childrens, macs, & pygmys under anteresia.I thought the genus is Antaresia ??? Liasis are water and olive pythons.
Oddly the DECCW 2011 NSW current species list has stimsons under liasis, however childrens, macs, & pygmys under anteresia.
You're right, just look up the word 'Intergrades.' It specifically mentions 'sub-species' I like this discussion though because cross-bredding might be an interset for me in the future.From what I believe hybrids are done at the species level or higher where "intergrades" are of breedings of seperate sub-species.
so a diamond x bredli would be a hybrid, where a diamond x jungle would be an intergrade.
This is where the port macs come in. They are called Natural Intergrades as they occur Naturally. Where diamond x jungles are man made intergrades.
Thats my take on it.
Burn me if you will...but first please if you do, send me a link to where you found the information to prove me wrong and I will stand corrected.
but the FAQ says they are the offspring of two separate subspecies.
That's definitely wrong. It implies that a diamond travels up north and carpet makes his way south to mate and then they back again? What about the progeny left in the middle, they don't mate amongst themselves when they mature? That's really silly.
Waterrat, can i bring the popcorn now
I'm gonna get you banned. Stop being so stubborn! You're not right about everything! Intergrades are sub-species oerlapping, not full species. Hybrids are actually species' overlapping. LOOK IT THE HELL UP!no it doesnt. It means an intermediate grade; transitional form, the transition form or intermediate grade between coastals and diamonds are port macs which are also known as intergrades, the name is fitting to the specimens but it seems no one knows the true meaning and people believe that "intergrades" are hybrids
I like you.Waterrat, can i bring the popcorn now
Yes, but what if the diamond has just had a fight with its dad and so runs away from home up north and mr carpet is there as a friend for her, one thing always leads to another
That's definitely wrong. It implies that a diamond travels up north and carpet makes his way south to mate and then they back again? What about the progeny left in the middle, they don't mate amongst themselves when they mature? That's really silly.
Intergrade: offspring of two different subspecies i.e. Diamond Pythons and Coastal Carpet Pythons (Note: definition is the subject of much debate)
I like you.
I'm gonna get you banned. Stop being so stubborn! You're not right about everything! Intergrades are sub-species oerlapping, not full species. Hybrids are actually species' overlapping. LOOK IT THE HELL UP!\
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