'07 jags PICS!!!! (MAJOR DUW!!)

[TrueBlue]

sorry my mistake, it must only be the last pic that is of the animal in question. Ive just got a cd with a whole heap of pics and a couple of them are of this wild caught carpet.
I will get these pics that a mate of mine has taken of it and post them, he was here when i posted those pics and also thought it was the same snake that he had seen, so it is very simular. Hes sure the pic with it in with another carpet is the animal im talking about.

 

[Retic]

Mmm, I guess that must be common paint colour ? The last snake is the same animal.

 

[zulu]

Well I guess there is a very good reason that snake looked uncannily like the founding Jaguar, that IS the founding Jaguar. LOL.
http://www.morelia-reptor.com/m-reptor_j-h/founder.html

Cant get the story boa,you have to download japanese stuff that dont work,is that supposed to be the coastal father that produced the first clutch of jags,or is it a jag from the first clutch produced from the normal coastal parents.

 

[cement]

I've asked the question about Jaguars in Aus before. To my eye they are absolutly stunning snakes.
Good work Joel either way they look an awesome animal.

 

[waruikazi]

Mmm, I guess that must be common paint colour ? The last snake is the same animal.

Beat me to it boa lol.

The only pic in that set that is not in the same enclosure is the 2nd pic. But then that could be just from a diff angle. I really hate doubting you TBbecause you have never given me any reason to before.

Did you actually see the snake in person or just the photo's? I'm beginning to think you were led up the garden path.

 

[Retic]

My Japanese is sketchy, I think that was the founding animal, the first Jag bred by Jan.

 

[waruikazi]

Jan's site is being updated at the moment (jaguarpython.com) it has some of the same pics from the site you posted boa so who knows could be another one of Jan's.

 

[zulu]

My Japanese is sketchy, I think that was the founding animal, the first Jag bred by Jan.

KaneeeecheeWAH Boa San,ime hunbled by youy generous response grasshopper!

 

[Retic]

The photo's I posted is the founder bred by Jan.

Jan's site is being updated at the moment (jaguarpython.com) it has some of the same pics from the site you posted boa so who knows could be another one of Jan's.

 

[waruikazi]

The photo's I posted is the founder bred by Jan.

Sorry i meant to say that Jan might own the other website aswell.

 

[Retic]

Oh right, no it isn't his site but it has the story of the founding snake on there, if of course you could read Japanese.

Sorry i meant to say that Jan might own the other website aswell.

 

[waruikazi]

I can read it... just can't translate lol.

 

[Retic]

LOL.

Don't get me wrong, I would love to hear there are wild snakes like that here but it was never really likely.

 

[waruikazi]

I really want TB's story to get confirmed. Cause then there is some kind of hope that we will get to own jags legally in Aus.

 

[zulu]

re O7

Is there pics of the parents of the founder jag?

 

[MrSpike]

LOL.

Don't get me wrong, I would love to hear there are wild snakes like that here but it was never really likely.

But why not. I am not 100% up to date with genetics, actually I'm pretty crap with them, but where did the coastal carpet's from America and Europe come for? Australia.

For example, in the wild there are het's for whatever, you just can tell which are and which aren't, now if you look at the Jaguar Gene, there will be animals that carry the jaguar gene, you just cant tell which are and which aren't. So its just by chance that one popped up OS first, and if one was bred in the wild, it would also have a lesser chance of survival because of its colours, correct? Similar to the albino. Just a thought that popped up, someone will probably prove it wrong.

Kane

 

[waruikazi]

Is there pics of the parents of the founder jag?

From memory there is on the jag breeding centre website. But we will have to wait till it is up and running again.

 

[Jungle_Freak]

There were pics of the parents of the first jag on Jans web site in the beginning , then they were removed for some reason ???
one parent looked like a brissy coastal the other parent looked like a crappy looking jungle,
but definatly a jungle in my opinion ,,
but the pics were removed never to be seen again

wish i had of saved the parent pics now LOLs ????

 

[waruikazi]

But why not. I am not 100% up to date with genetics, actually I'm pretty crap with them, but where did the coastal carpet's from America and Europe come for? Australia.

For example, in the wild there are het's for whatever, you just can tell which are and which aren't, now if you look at the Jaguar Gene, there will be animals that carry the jaguar gene, you just cant tell which are and which aren't. So its just by chance that one popped up OS first, and if one was bred in the wild, it would also have a lesser chance of survival because of its colours, correct? Similar to the albino. Just a thought that popped up, someone will probably prove it wrong.

Kane

Yes you can tell what animals carry the Jag gene. A jag is a visual het for leucism. They carry one leucistic gene which is recessive (i think or it could be co-dominant), if you can't see jag in them they do not have the 'jag' gene.

 

[hornet]

the animals jags came from did come from aus but it was just a mutated gene, it is possible it can happen here but its a very very slim chance.