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there are still morphs that are thousands, and tens of thousands of dollars in the us. just the sort of stuff we pay loads of cash for here are cheap over there, due to them being years ahead of us, having next to no restrictions, and the amount of animals produced. its only a matter of time till we start to catch up i think.
 
i think a lot of americans also but them when they are little and cute n when they get massive they dont want to or dont have the $ to accommodate them anymore, they let them loose or keep them confined in tiny enclosures.
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thats exactly why the everglades has such a huge population of burmese pythons.
 
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exactly, its their own fault. kingsnake.com or something i think is one of the bigger sites that sell burms over there, they want $90 for one. arent burmese pythons gigantic? who can afford to house something like that?

still trying to find that site, from one one of the only american reptile keepers with a brain.
 
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this guys great
a woma/ball
i wounder what my woma/spotteds are going to come out like this year?
i got some black and gold green trees in the incubator this year also
pics to come
 
can you imagine what would happen if anacondas were let loose in kakadu or cairns? they would run amuk big time
 
i think its awful how cheap they are in the states,..it makes it more expensive to take them to the vet than to get a replacement, making them disposable to a certain portion of the population

i think the price of snakes here is more than fair.

Subjective I know, but it does depend on the person. I used to work at a vet that specialised in reptiles and birds and some people just couldnt give a rats, on some pretty flash animals too, such as levis levis geckoes, janday conures, and slightly cheaper things like maccies. On the other hand, a lady with a long necked turtle spent thousands getting him fixed, and I spent over $600 on vet bills for an eastern beardie that I only paid $15 for (all legally too, I might add. No idea why he was so cheap).
 
I think we have good, fair prices here for reptiles. Some might be well out of one's price range but I am sure those genuinely interested in the hobby can find the means to acquire that special animal. I spent two years paying off a pair of snakes with SXR that I would never dream of being to afford any other way. Private breeder might be cheaper, but private breeders are more "pay up front, first in best dressed". First in best dressed with SXR too but I was happy to wait out the 2 years for a future clutch because paying $30 a week for the next two years was very affordable for me than to find the full funds in one go.

Even our common carpets, I reckon it would be a shame to see the coastals and intergrades prices drop any more. Makes them too easy available to the wrong ppl. When they get sick, ppl will throw them away and get a new one because its cheaper. That's a wrong attitude to adopt. You're a good person Morgs. And I am sure there are many who do good by their animals. But as in any game, there are plenty who don't care. On another note, some probably can't afford to care. If its cheaper to buy a new one they don't have a choice. Why do vets need to be so expensive?
 
Cheap animals do not encourage responsible ownership. When animals are so easily purchased/replaced they seem disposable and you get people who simply buy them for the status/novelty.

I like the fact that i need to work and plan and organise and budget to get myself a snake. if i could just walk into a petshop and buy one for $20 i'd have one already but id definately be ill prepared to look after it.
The higher cost makes people think more about their responsibilities. it is better for the welfare of the animals to be more highly valued
 
Settle down, just my opinion.
As i said, i just think i would loose interested if i could buy every snake i wanted all at once, If they are so cheap they would almost become disposable. Having to pay how much i do for them , makes it worth while waiting, then it makes me strive to look after them even more
And ps why would i like paying for petrol? its not even in the same context!
I dont collect different types of petrol, and keep them displayed around my house!
 
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Yes sorry to all it was a bit of an angry rant lol.

I can see the side of having to wait so its worth more to you, but thats a natural emotion (or whatever),
but if careing for it more because you paid more for it is how you think, then im telling you, you think wrong. That type of thinking IS wrong when it comes to animals. You get a animal because you love it and want to keep it and care for it and watch it and learn from it, not because its worth money
 
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Yes sorry to all it was a bit of an angry rant lol.

I can see the side of having to wait so its worth more to you, but thats a natural emotion (or whatever),
but if careing for it more because you paid more for it is how you think, then im telling you, you think wrong. That type of thinking IS wrong when it comes to animals. You get a animal because you love it and want to keep it and care for it and watch it and learn from it, not because its worth money
I wasnt saying that because it costs alot, care for it. I would care for it either way. I guess i mean i get more of an appreciation for them, being that there not something that everyone gets for 15 dollars, has for a week , then lets it go. etc. I feel the price makes them a little more exclusive to people that are actually interested in them for what they are, not just a 5 min show and tell pet. ( not saying that it doesn't happen anyway, but the price limits that)
 
Yes sorry to all it was a bit of an angry rant lol.

I can see the side of having to wait so its worth more to you, but thats a natural emotion (or whatever),
but if careing for it more because you paid more for it is how you think, then im telling you, you think wrong. That type of thinking IS wrong when it comes to animals. You get a animal because you love it and want to keep it and care for it and watch it and learn from it, not because its worth money

I agree with what yopuv'e said, but I do understand how people would be tempted to buy a very cheap animal.
Even if I saw a $20 beadie or whatever I would want to snatch it up in a heartbeat, rather than paying the $100 they charge in pet shops.
But I know in the end that right now I don't have the space or requirements to give it a loving home.

I have found though by paying my Woma off in small amounts that I have been more motivated to get my act together and make sure I can bring my new family member into a caring loving home, I have been able to prepare everything properly.

But it is true, not all people are as responsible as others, and there will be at least ONE person in the world who will buy cheap and then neglect.

Anyway, happy faces !
 
not that i am condoning this, but $200 is cheap for a snake that you dont need a licence for and comes in so many varieties that none of our snakes can compare to....
 
not that i am condoning this, but $200 is cheap for a snake that you dont need a licence for and comes in so many varieties that none of our snakes can compare to....

Yeah i dont condone them as exotics, but within an acceptable conditions i think they are amazing snakes, i have seen some amazing ones
 
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