NATHAN93
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G'day,
This topic seems to come up every so often and raises a few questions that I thought worth posting -:
1. I wonder how people that only have a couple of snakes expect others with more to keep them....what "wall to wall" enclosures ?
it seems to me that alot of people dont realize that snakes dont care if they dont have a nice fake back ground, an attractive substrate, an attractive substrate. As long as the snake gets what it needs, food, heat, water, shelter they are happy. Is it just me or are we seeing the new generation of "beardie breast feeders" here lol
Agreed. I use racking systems for a lot of my animals and I certainly don't feel as though I am "degrading" my animals in any way. They all have ample space, perches etc. All their needs are taken care of.
These posts without evidence are merely opinions - nothing more. Before having a dig at other keepers, please feel free to support those opinions of yours with evidence that an enclosure with a more "natural" appearance is beneficial to our animals and in what ways. If racking systems are so detrimental, please also provide evidence to support these claims.
An argument is an absolute waste of time if no one can support any of their claims.
Body heat is one thing.
These people have very different attitude. They perceive their snakes as units / items / product, anything but wild animals. Some argue that reptiles born in captivity know no better, so it's OK to keep them in small plastic boxes. They do survive, they even breed. With the exception of mass production reptile farmers, I will never understand how can these people derive any pleasure from having reptile collections. Efficiency and easy maintenance seems to be the key word. Where is the sense in keeping large number of animals in such conditions? On many occasions I have been accused of "breeding for profit", I challenge those keepers / breeders any time - what are they in for?
Each to their own but I could never degrade reptiles, not even domestic animals to that level.
At least I keep mine happy, they have more than they know to do with!
it seems to me that alot of people dont realize that snakes dont care if they dont have a nice fake back ground, an attractive substrate, an attractive substrate. As long as the snake gets what it needs, food, heat, water, shelter they are happy. Is it just me or are we seeing the new generation of "beardie breast feeders" here lol
G'day,
This topic seems to come up every so often and raises a few questions that I thought worth posting -:
1. I wonder how people that only have a couple of snakes expect others with more to keep them....what "wall to wall" enclosures ?
2. What does anyone that has breeding snakes keep their hatchies in as they reach selling age, and also if they keep some what do they grow them out in ?
3. What are click clacks that a lot of people keep their snakes in ?....if not a "mobile" rack system ?
These posts without evidence are merely opinions - nothing more. Before having a dig at other keepers, please feel free to support those opinions of yours with evidence that an enclosure with a more "natural" appearance is beneficial to our animals and in what ways. If racking systems are so detrimental, please also provide evidence to support these claims.
But how do you know that they are happy?
Captive bred snakes are not wildlife either! And some snakes are lab animals for a good reason, and we keep them all in rack systems, and they are in perfect health!Common guys, wake up! Laboratory mice and rats are not wildlife, they couldn't survive in natural environment for a week. Having said that, I have been involved in keeping / breeding native rodents as part of my studies for many years and my animals were always kept in landscaped, natural surroundings (as much as possible).
Snakes are not laboratory animals - get real !!!!!!!
Because I'm happy keeping them in it
that is a perfect example of how keeping them in these fancy natural looking enclosures isnt for the animals benefit, its for the owners. Do you really think the snakes care? They are not people, they are not attracted to "pretty" things, as long as the basic needs are met they are going to be just fine
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