proffessional dog fights inside story last night on ch2

[whiteyluvsrum]

seen a few of these fights, the blades straped to there feet can get mesy.

 

[whiteyluvsrum]

i think in asia they have bears vs dogs and all sorts of animals blueing against each other.

 

[whiteyluvsrum]

this is an interesting clip of a natural wildlife fight between hyenas vs lions. from youtube.

[video=youtube;TNL1MR5aj1w]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNL1MR5aj1w"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNL1MR5aj1w[/video]

and more of the end fight with the big male at the end.

[video=youtube;aIVgKIuISx4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIVgKIuISx4"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIVgKIuISx4[/video]

and i think this one is amazing you have to watch the whole thing! i cant beleive they caught it all on tape. this has to be the luckest buffalo!

[video=youtube;pcQxrE4wGqY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcQxrE4wGqY"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcQxrE4wGqY[/video]

 

[wiz-fiz]

cruel, just cruel:cry:.(gonna leave it at that because I don't want to get suspended again and I have to go to bed

 

[FNQ_Snake]

Mate whats the point of going around in circles and making a fool of yourself?
Your baiting is of the wrong flavour buddy, I'm not going to bite.

Not real sure what you are talking about mate. I can't see where I have mentioned American Pitbulls origin?

I am confused.

All I said was something about prohibition and now I am mistaking origin of the AMPB? Hmmmnn.

:?

 

[whiteyluvsrum]

these bears can blue!
[video=youtube;N7vvkloC-Ac]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7vvkloC-Ac"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7vvkloC-Ac[/video]

this caribou should of just ran for it!
[video=youtube;kdTdp7Ep6AM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdTdp7Ep6AM"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdTdp7Ep6AM[/video]

hope i never meet a polar bear like this fella.
[video=youtube;Ob_oD1IsYbE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ob_oD1IsYbE&feature=related"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ob_oD1IsYbE&feature=related[/video]

one of the most amazing things is watching killer whales hunt. i dont understand why they play with em before killing and eating them?
[video=youtube;pNnx_X5ue2c]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNnx_X5ue2c"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNnx_X5ue2c[/video]
the David Attenborough doco "the blue planet" has captured some awsome footage of killer whales in action! one of my favs!
[video=youtube;5pCuUPLs2tc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pCuUPLs2tc"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pCuUPLs2tc[/video]

 

[whiteyluvsrum]

killer whales hunt and eat everything from bait fish to seals, great whites,other whales and dolphins. they are very smart hunters.

 

[Snake Catcher Victoria]

cruel, just cruel:cry:

From the mouths of babes, (no offence will)..
I fully agree with will here..Just because animals tear into each other in the wild does not make me condone putting two in a pit for 'sport'..
Nothing does...
As far as this subject goes I'm a bleeding heart and proud of it..

 

[rmcneill]

Garbage!

Oh, and if it is true, what have you done about it?

I still reckon what you said is garbage!

Garbage???? i wish, you have absolutly no idea, i have reported them twice so far, like i said there dogs were removed and they recived a slap on the wrist! Come and live in lovely werribee where people set fire to your car for fun and then tell me garbage!

 

[Earthling]

Earthling i'm not going to even try and say why one thing is okay and another isn't or what ever it is you were trying to say...All I can suggest is that you watch the program tonight and then you will understand the difference?????

Fortunately I dont have a TV, its been around 8 years of bliss.....perhaps you could tell me the difference. Im sure there is a difference between one type of condoned cruelty and another that is not condoned...I 'feel' there is a difference, but I cannot see it...please enlighten me.
Without trying to impact on your expression, is it possible that you could write it in something a bit easier to read then hot pink please?

 

[itbites]

Sorry hon hot pink all the way Well i can't really be tossed to type much if you can't figure out that dogs have no conception of whats going on and are just thrown into a ring for our amusement, compared to people who volunteer to go kill other people all for the sake of land....then theres no point explaining in depth to you my reasons for feeling the way I do Now considering you have no tv and find that bliss i'm curious as to why you have internet?????

 

[dragon lady]

i took in a dog....pure bull terrier,be 18 yrs ago...
it lost its 1st fight...the owner was about to give it a present....a bullet
i had to bag his head to get it to the vet...he had internal damage,& huge wound to his throat
the vet didn't want the dog in his clinic
administered drugs out side....steroids(to stop the vomiting) that was all he'd give him
took 3 months for his wounds to completely heal...allot of TLC

probably the most devoted dog i could ever get....after he trusted me

animal fighting is prehistoric ...glad they have laws to enforce to stop it
unfortunately ...80% of the animals cant be retrained ...& have to be destroyed

 

[itbites]

For anyone who's interested they are replaying last nights story on ch2 at the moment....very sad indeed

 

[kakariki]

I just watched a few of the you tube vids on BSL & Pit Bull fights. I cried! I honestly cannot, for the life of me, understand how humans, who are supposed to be the higher life form, can do this stuff. Where is the compassion? And others have the gall to call for a ban on certain breeds, which are as they are because of us! I had a bloke come up to me while I was parked at the local shops. In my vehicle were my 2 dogs and my kids. This man approached and naturally my dogs warned him to stay clear of the vehicle. He saw Aragorn & asked if he could use him to breed from. Ordinarily I'd have been flattered but he went on to say he wanted a " nasty pittie type " for his girl! No prizes for guessing where the pups were headed. Aragorn is a Dane X Mastiff & he is VERY protective of what he considers is his. But nasty? No. Could he fight & injure & kill? Absolutely but I am a responsible owner who TRAINS for obedience and good behaviour NOT for aggression. As was said, Punish the deed, not the breed! Heavier penalties are needed and we must stand up against such horrific atrocities. Dogs may be mans best friend but some of us are most certainly not theirs!! I missed the program but thanks itbites for the thread, horrible & sad as it is.

 

[Earthling]

Sorry hon hot pink all the way Well i can't really be tossed to type much if you can't figure out that dogs have no conception of whats going on and are just thrown into a ring for our amusement, compared to people who volunteer to go kill other people all for the sake of land....then theres no point explaining in depth to you my reasons for feeling the way I do Now considering you have no tv and find that bliss i'm curious as to why you have internet?????

"Hot pink all the way", thats OK, we sometimes must make allowances for people to express who they truely are.

I noticed you said before that people usually have complaints about what you say, not the colour...is that because you usually go on the defense and use a condescending attitude, like you just have now in your comment towards my post? If so, its understandable that most people react negatively towards your remarks.

I have the interent and not the TV as I personally I found the TV caused drug like behaviour in myself and I also observed these effects from others when watching it. Blank stare, uncommunicative, not interested in the immediate surrounding area/events..and usually spend time talking about subjects with no glimmer of true reality.
The interent I find, is the opposite for me. I use the internet to find information that assists me to live today and tomorow and to learn from my past mistakes, therefore increasing my awareness of immediate surrounding area/events, increasing communication, increasing my understanding (when people are willing to assist in that process with good communication) of the world and reality around me.
Vast difference between the TV and internet for myself. Does that answer your question?

Regarding the dog/human/ethical issue which was the main reason for my previous comments in this thread.
You say "dogs have no idea whats going on". From my experience with Pitbulls, they usually have a very good idea of whats going on. They are a dog that shows awareness and interest in the going on of the environment around them. I can not see why that would not include a dog fight. If anything it would highten their awareness, as it does in most animals when in 'fight mode'.
Unless you mean they have no idea of what the fight is about for us humans. Maybe they do and maybe they dont, as I was saying before, a dog such as a pitbull which is supposedly bred to fight is doing what it is made for...its 'higher purpose' if you will. Now if humans get a thrill out of that or money, so be it, no difference then humans sending humans to fight to the death (war). The dog is doing what it was bred by us humans for, its inner purpose to fight.

Comparing pitbulls to people volunteering to go and kill other people for the sake of land or power or money or for its because what they need to do. These humans are choosing to kill other humans. Supposedly that choice is free will. I would argue that its because thats their in built drive, their need, their desire to protect, to kill. Humans then use their free will to achieve that in built drive, that desire. Something in these humans, their 'higher purpose' shall we say? Just like a Pitbulls a higher purpose? To protect, to kill. If true, which I think it is, then my comparison is valid.
Then providing the pitbull an arena to serve their purpose then what is wrong with that? No different then providing an arena for the human showing similiar traits to serve their purpose.

 

[ishka]

Thats very true rmcneill and the cold hard truth is that if this sort of thing wasn't going on I highly doubt they would be regarded as dangerous dog like they are now. I have had pitty's that wouldn't hurt a fly, they get a bad wrap because of people who do this sort of thing. Any animal has the potential to become dangerous in the wrong conditions...

I disagree... I don't believe the current situation with Breed Specific Legislation has anything to do with dog fighting. Pit Bulls are considered a dangerous breed due to the number of attacks on humans, not other dogs. It is easy to sit here and blame the dog fighters for the problems like breed specific legislation... they are low life people, the scum of the earth... and yes, they do deserve experience the pain they put their dogs through... but no, the BSL is in no way their doing. The BSL in this country has been caused by 2 groups, the first one, Pit Bull Owners. Now before all you pitbull owners start flaming me, i am not talking about the owners out there who know the breed, have well trained dogs and understand that the fighting instincts have been bred in to these dogs over countless years and is always going to be a part of the breed. I am talking about owners who have not done the training, just bought the pup because it was cute without researching the breed and do irresponsible things like leave their young children unsupervised with the dog... these are the people that due to irresponsible pet ownership are causing the attacks and therefore, the BSL. The second group responsible for the BSL, the media. Pit bull attacks make a good story.... seriously, what sounds better, "girl get nipped by unknown crossbreed" or "infant get viciously maulled by pitbull"... I can't think of one dog attack story in the last 12 months that has involved what was allegadly a pitbull, yet you see footage on the news of the culprit and half the time the dog looks nothing like a pitbull. But that is th media for you... never let the truth get in the way of a good story!

Oops... got a bit off topic there!!

 

[itbites]

I'm not about to sit here and type an essay on why I don't condone this sort of sadistic ritual! I know the difference between right and wrong..and what these sicko's are doing is wrong!!!!! Also Earthing if you found my post condescending that's not what I was intending, I am truely curious as to why you think that tv is so different from internet? IMO internet is more "drug like" and anti-social tha tv....but your entittled to your opinion as I am mine.......Also Ishka it is because breeding agressive pitty's with agressive pitty's that they get this "killer" dog......an AMERICAN PITBULL in loving conditions does not display those traits and so there for pitty's are not a dangerous breed the people who own and mis-treat them are....My close friend is a groomer, she deals with all types inc pitty's and has had more bites/attacks with smaller breeds ie jack russels, foxy's.

 

[bundy_zigg]

Most dog attacks are not pitbulls!!!!!! cross breeds are for the most part the colprits. Its just easier to pin it on a breed that most people fear! dog to dog agression is natural, but it is PEOPLE who train them to use it not ignore it!!!! dogs are preditors even little itybity dogs, its how they are raised that makes them who they are. i am talking from experience!, my beautiful boy never had training and was treated like and equal and there for took on the role of boss of the house once i realised the problem(first bite on another dog) it was too late. we took him to trainers and none could curb his dog(not to people) agression. He was sadly put down and it was all MY fult not his!! training an understanding a dogs place is what will stop them turning bad not what breed they are!!! My heart goes out to all animals that suffer at the hands of humans! It is not just pittbulls that are used in dog fights they are a small percentage of dogs there are many breeds used.

 

[Soldiers_Girl]

I can think of an attack in the last 12 months that wasn't pit bulls, it was the lady that was killed by her neighbours 3 Bull Mastiffs after she jumped the fence to get something out of their yard.

 

[bundy_zigg]

stupid woman!! her fult