our new diamond python

[mungus]

hope your snake is a female,
If you like my male that much we could put them together in a few years time.
I also live in Newcastle - Just a thought !!

 

[mitchdiamond]

Does anyone know of anybody with a spare breeding age male Diamond

 

[Australis]

If you bred that Hybrid with a pure Diamond you would only be breeding Hybrids, nothing pure will come from breeding that snake.

Also why are you calling it a diamond when infact it is a hybrid? a bit misleading IMO

 

[mitchdiamond]

Would you say its a coastel because its a little Coastel

 

[Australis]

Would you say its a coastel because its a little Coastel

I wouldnt call it either "Coastal" or "Diamond" because its not either, its a hybrid.

This is the exact reason why so many people (myself included) are against hybrids, just because it looks more like a diamond, doesnt make it one!

I think it would be a mnassive waste to breed it with anything, let alone a pure diamond.

 

[python blue]

ok i get your thing

 

[mungus]

Why would it be a massive waste of time to breed with it ?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but are there coastal / diamonds intergrades in the wild ?
Its a pitty that mitchdiamond/python blue were so happy with their new purchase and
now they might have a few regrets due to your negative comments !!
I'd like to know who are these '' so many people " that are against breeding intergrades ?
I'll will be breeding mine - take it or leave it.
Happy New Year to all.

 

[python blue]

thanks mungus you have the best new year

 

[Ricko]

Im not against it all but im against breeding a bredli x darwin or something like that. But the biggest thing is that people breed say a coastal and a diamond together and try to sell them for say $300 a hatchy as pure diamonds which they are definetly not thats what annoys the hell out of the true breeders and alot of the people in this hobby

 

[python blue]

if i did breed them id sell them for no m ore than 200

 

[mungus]

Ricko,
I know were your coming from.
My 2 snakes [ refer to photo's in earlier thread ] are actually " Port Macquarie Diamonds ".
The female was bred by Greg Hollis - she was the best one out of 18. [ sold her at 15 months of age due to down sizeing ].
Refer to "mysnakeau" thread in Australian snakes - I still refer to them as intergrades !!
Are they ??????
What do you honestly think ???

 

[Ricko]

dont think there worth more than $100 at the most but thats me. i would be buying pairs of more pure animals but thats just me. you got yourself a nice looking snake and i hope it goes well for you but if you do breed with it make sure you label hatchy's as HYBRIDS.

 

[Ricko]

I think greg hollis's are pure intergrades not crossed in captivity which are totally different (dont know the man myself or what he does but from all i have read he breeds pure port mac's) if you breed a diamond to anything other than a full diamond then your creating HYBRIDS but thats my thoughts and as long as people label them truely and not as pure anythings then thats fine but i wouldnt do it just my opinion.

 

[mungus]

python blue,
I'd sell them for what people are prepared to pay for them.
Letting them know ALL the snakes history etc.
I'd pay good dollars the right Port. Mac Male for my female.

 

[mungus]

Ricko,
so a Port. Mac Diamond in a natural intergrade, but it's still a intergrade never the less.
So whats the difference natural & captive bred intergrades ??
and the same can be said for natural & captive bred Diamonds ??

 

[Ricko]

but thats the whole thing they arent Port macs they are captive hybrids and i hope they stay labeled as such. Thats it on this point but i must say it is a nice looking snake and as long as your happy than thats the main thing.

Rick

 

[Ricko]

The whole thing is they are not intergrades they are hybrids. Intergrades are naturally occuring compared to being placed together in the same cage just to get some hatchies therefore creating hybrids. Is that not correct?

 

[mungus]

Thanks for your honest input Ricko, we will agree to disagree on some pionts.
Happy New Year to ya,
mungus

 

[Australis]

Hi all,

Basically a true natural "intergrade" as they are known by some, is a locality form or Carpet python, not a result of Diamond pythons breeding with Coastal Carpet python.

Its all well and good to say you will sell hybrid offspring as such, but considering you started this thread as "our new diamond" i have my doubts.

You dont have to breed everything you own, i think if you breed that to a "pure" diamond the offspring would look very much like "pure diamonds" and in the end they would end up being called "pure".

Call a spade a spade dont call it a shovel aye

 

[Ricko]

Do you not agree mate? Whats your opinion on it all? just for interests sake.

Cheers have a good nye
Ricko