Jonny
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OuZo said:
domestic dogs are the same species
crossing a dingo with a domestic dog would be like a diamond x coastal
crossing a coyote with a domestic dog would be like water x olive
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domestic dogs are the same species
crossing a dingo with a domestic dog would be like a diamond x coastal
crossing a coyote with a domestic dog would be like water x olive
Arnold
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It will happen whether it's liked or not. There are for and against for both sides of the arguement.
If we step outside of the square and acknowledge that it will happen, we can manage it. There is a lot to look forward to in breeding designer morphs, however we must never forget the original linage.
If we step outside of the square and acknowledge that it will happen, we can manage it. There is a lot to look forward to in breeding designer morphs, however we must never forget the original linage.
Jonny
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Arnold said:
Thats the way it has gone in the US.
The unusual colour morphs/albinoes etc fetching high prices and the original wild type with traceable history also fetching high prices.
dobermanmick
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I cant see the point when we have such nice snakes like darwins ! :wink:
Jaguar Spilota Mcdowelli - Coastal Carpet (Believe it or not)
NATIVE REGION: Eastern Australia, though it is a mutation with captive origins. None have been reported in the wild.
AVERAGE SIZE: 7-9'
COMMENTS: The Jaguar gene is a rare genetic trait that originates, oddly enough, from the Coastal Carpet Python. Jan Eric Engell of Norway produced the very first Jaguar back in 1994 while breeding two seemingly normal mcdowelli together. In 1998 he proved the trait to be genetic (it is presumed to be of a co-dominant nature since the breeding of a Jaguar to a completely normal unrelated mcdowelli produces an average of 50% true Jaguars and 50% "normal" appearing siblings per clutch).
Within the past few years, several new morphs have also surfaced from the same genetic strain, including: the Hypo Jaguar (like the one pictured Bellow), the Red Hypo Jaguar, a completely Banded Jaguar, a patternless or "Banana" Jaguar, *Super Red Hyos (red and cream colored bands with red tongues!), and *Leucistics. The Leucistics were the result of breeding a Jaguar to a Jaguar. Unfortunately, of the 6 produced this year, none have lived long after pipping.
It is also worth mentioning that some of the "normal" appearing siblings found among the Hypo Jaguar clutches tend to turn bright yellow and black with age, closely resembling the pattern and coloration of a Jungle Carpet Python (M.s. cheynei). However, this possible gene remains unproven, so we will just have to wait and see.
This is from : http://www.reptilicusreptiles.net/htm2/pythons_jaguar.htm
NATIVE REGION: Eastern Australia, though it is a mutation with captive origins. None have been reported in the wild.
AVERAGE SIZE: 7-9'
COMMENTS: The Jaguar gene is a rare genetic trait that originates, oddly enough, from the Coastal Carpet Python. Jan Eric Engell of Norway produced the very first Jaguar back in 1994 while breeding two seemingly normal mcdowelli together. In 1998 he proved the trait to be genetic (it is presumed to be of a co-dominant nature since the breeding of a Jaguar to a completely normal unrelated mcdowelli produces an average of 50% true Jaguars and 50% "normal" appearing siblings per clutch).
Within the past few years, several new morphs have also surfaced from the same genetic strain, including: the Hypo Jaguar (like the one pictured Bellow), the Red Hypo Jaguar, a completely Banded Jaguar, a patternless or "Banana" Jaguar, *Super Red Hyos (red and cream colored bands with red tongues!), and *Leucistics. The Leucistics were the result of breeding a Jaguar to a Jaguar. Unfortunately, of the 6 produced this year, none have lived long after pipping.
It is also worth mentioning that some of the "normal" appearing siblings found among the Hypo Jaguar clutches tend to turn bright yellow and black with age, closely resembling the pattern and coloration of a Jungle Carpet Python (M.s. cheynei). However, this possible gene remains unproven, so we will just have to wait and see.
This is from : http://www.reptilicusreptiles.net/htm2/pythons_jaguar.htm
Arnold
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Jonny,
It is inevitable we are approxiamately 10 yrs behind the US
BROWNS
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Spot on Arnold except the US don't have any albino carpets yet but they do have the jags.There will be animals as nice and nicer than that black and white jag being bred in Australia in the future.Also that specific jaguar didn't remain white as it got older but what a stunning carpet!!!
Greebo
Snakologist
Funny how people always post pics of the exceptional hybrids and you never see the pics of all the fugly ones that were bred before they got a nice one.
They are mongrels and I don't care how pretty they can be.
Not interested.
ps. My dogs are purebred Alaskan Malamutes, Zoe.
They are mongrels and I don't care how pretty they can be.
Not interested.
ps. My dogs are purebred Alaskan Malamutes, Zoe.
all your so called pure breeds were made by breeding mungrels in spacific lines.
If we must keep referring to dogs.
All dogs did originate from one breed.(Way back when)
Then bred and crossed with specific linage to give other breeds. so why cant it be done with snakes.
Pure bred is exactly what????
Bred to produce a specific breed.
Please if I am wrong correct me!
If we must keep referring to dogs.
All dogs did originate from one breed.(Way back when)
Then bred and crossed with specific linage to give other breeds. so why cant it be done with snakes.
Pure bred is exactly what????
Bred to produce a specific breed.
Please if I am wrong correct me!
Greebo
Snakologist
Yeah but those pics have been posted on here several times.
Round and round we go.
Round and round we go.
BROWNS
Very Well-Known Member
Dunno what pics you're talking about but the pic of the jungle diamond hybrid of mine was taken this afternoon dude so no chance of having seen that pic before,maybe the others and they are all great examples of hybrids,crosses or mutations!!!
Greebo
Snakologist
no, the other ones
these dont look too bad despite being "mongrels"
http://www.chondroweb.com/DrFrankenstein/carpondros.htm
http://www.chondroweb.com/DrFrankenstein/carpondros.htm
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