Wild GTP's in SYDNEY..

[Pythoninfinite]

Ape drape - I LOVE that!!!

look, to solve this mystery - I release my gtps every summer around Sydney so they can relax and stretch their legs for a few months, and eat natural food - all the cuscusses and baby cassowaries that also have naturalised around sydney... No way could GTPs live through a sydney winter - one of the most tropical snakes in the world in a temperate climate like that ... nah...

I have lived in New Orleans, and spent quite a bit of time in the Southern USA, and burms could live very easily in the tropical environment in Florida - they come from a very wide area in Asia, and can tolerate a wide range of temps, even brief spells of very cold weather... Gtps though... everyone wants to believe they're not as specialised as they are... but sorry... they are... And they don't live in Sydney... except in well controlled environments...

Jamie.

 

[addy]

Ape drape - I LOVE that!!!

look, to solve this mystery - I release my gtps every summer around Sydney so they can relax and stretch their legs for a few months, and eat natural food - all the cuscusses and baby cassowaries that also have naturalised around sydney... No way could GTPs live through a sydney winter - one of the most tropical snakes in the world in a temperate climate like that ... nah...

I have lived in New Orleans, and spent quite a bit of time in the Southern USA, and burms could live very easily in the tropical environment in Florida - they come from a very wide area in Asia, and can tolerate a wide range of temps, even brief spells of very cold weather... Gtps though... everyone wants to believe they're not as specialised as they are... but sorry... they are... And they don't live in Sydney... except in well controlled environments...

Jamie.

Winters just don't get "cold" there champion. You're not the only one that has done some travelling.. And the topic is about them being seen, not surviving. And if surviving, only long enough to get seen.. It happens all the time, creatures get away.

And just beside the point, animals can change in a very short time. Like the polar bears on the gold coast, now totally adapted to the gold coast, if they were reintroduced to the artic, there expected to freeze to death. From one extreme enviroment to the other. I love all you profesionals.....You're all just sooo smart........

 

[Luke1]

but what if its a green tree python but for a different climate, im certain theres probably hundrends of reptiles that still haven't been found, what if its like a sub species or something! just because its here doesn't mean its a gtp from far north QLD

Cheers,

Luke

 

[scam7278]

i went fishing last week in Lake Illawarra and caught a black marlin but i didnt take pics please believe me

 

[Magpie]

I've seen jungles in my front yard.
Oh, I have pics too.

 

[Pythoninfinite]

The theory of "very" rapid evolution... heard it before... And don't patronise me Addy - I am very familair with both Burms and GTPs, so I do know what I'm talking about.

As far as surviving long enough to be seen - there are thousands of people who have been to the parts of cape York where these things live, looked for them and NEVER seen them. The chances of them being seen in the bush, out of their range, when people weren't looking for them, especially during the DAY, are very slim indeed. Non existent in fact...

Pigs might fly... but I doubt it...

Jamie..

 

[wiz-fiz]

I reckon it's psosible that they can live in sydney coz it is quite warm and winter isn't that cold(compared to where i am now), and it is very humid, my dad used to site at a desk and sweat coz it was so humid(1 reson y we moved to berridale(near mt kozi))

oh and i reckon you should try and get a permit to take them out of the wild and keep and breed them and sell them for $200-$300!

Cheers,
Will

 

[MrBredli]

but what if its a green tree python but for a different climate, im certain theres probably hundrends of reptiles that still haven't been found, what if its like a sub species or something! just because its here doesn't mean its a gtp from far north QLD

Cheers,

Luke

If there was another population of GTP's that hadn't been discovered yet, it certainly wouldn't be in the middle of the most populated city in Australia.

This is simply a case of mistaken identity, whether or not they're being mistaken for GTS's or Diamonds, there is just no way that GTP's could survive in Sydney. How many times have we heard of a snake catcher being called out to catch a 'Brown Snake' or 'Black Snake', and it's turned out to be a Diamond Python, or even a Blue-tongue Lizard! Simple fact is GTP's do not exist in Sydney, anyone who thinks they saw one, or heard a story of someone seeing one, is quite simply mistaken.

 

[Pythoninfinite]

Or they've been on the plonk...

Jamie.

 

[wiz-fiz]

Why can't they be in Sydney and r so expensive?

 

[DanN]

Theoretically, a green, given a very favorable winter could survive for a short period. Greens aren't as intolerant as some may think. There are parts of their range where winter temperatures drop as low as 10 degrees during the winter months.

Still, as has been said, very unlikely to be an established feral population.

 

[Pythoninfinite]

Oh come on... just accept the fact that GTPs don't live around Sydney for very good reasons, which are VERY WELL UNDERSTOOD... Nobody EVER produces the animals they have purported to see in these outlandish places... And i do know a bit about the tolerances of GTPs... even "theoretically"...

J.

 

[addy]

establishing a population........i'll leave that one.. As for not finding what you're looking for, then finding it by mistake when you're not looking.. I do that everytime i go shopping.

 

[jack]

i don't know what is more depressing, this ridiculous thread or luke1's signature...

 

[Retic]

5 pages on GTP's surving in Sydney LOL
It just wouldn't happen, of course it is entirely POSSIBLE that various people have seen various escaped GTP's at different times in different places, just about anything is POSSIBLE.
The chances of them survivng would be just about nil which does allow for that elusive POSSIBILITY.

As for Polar Bears adapting to the Gold Coast didn't they have to spend multiple millions building a climate controlled environment for them and chill the water etc ?

 

[addy]

Oh come on... just accept the fact that GTPs don't live around Sydney for very good reasons, which are VERY WELL UNDERSTOOD... Nobody EVER produces the animals they have purported to see in these outlandish places... And i do know a bit about the tolerances of GTPs... even "theoretically"...

J.

It's easy to call someone a lier isn't it. Just say it. You don't know who these people are...so it should be very easy to say it. Mean while I'll be happy trying to explain what "just might" have happened once. Just once. Or i could just say "nah". Because thats easy too

 

[Splitmore]

Oh come on... just accept the fact that GTPs don't live around Sydney for very good reasons, which are VERY WELL UNDERSTOOD... Nobody EVER produces the animals they have purported to see in these outlandish places... And i do know a bit about the tolerances of GTPs... even "theoretically"...

J.

Spot on Jamie, we all hear stories of all these weird and wonderful species living in our suburbs, iguanas in the Blue Mountains is another one that comes up every so often. Surely if they are present in reasonable enough numbers to breed then they should be common enough for someone to actually find one rather than hear a story 3rd hand from a friends mates second cousin who wouldn't have a clue what they were looking at.

 

[Retic]

Yes they are always spotted by people who don't know anything about reptiles but can somehow identify them or when spotted by someone who does know reptiles they don't for some reason catch the animal or manage to photograph it. If I saw a Green and lived 5 hours from home I would go home and get my camera knowing full well it certainly wouldn't have moved by the time I got back.

 

[MrSpike]

rather than hear a story 3rd hand from a friends mates second cousin who wouldn't have a clue what they were looking at.

No Chris, remember they are all experienced herpers :lol:

 

[Luke1]

the point im getting at is that, even though people have said its impossible or its very very unlikely there is even a feral population. what was said earlier about hte polar bears is right, nature finds a way so what im saying is that possibly a pair or a gravid female escaped or weas let go and they had to survive, so they adapetted to the climate and now there is possibly a very small feral population in sydney!
as i said its happened before and can happen like it may of had now, nature has to addapt or die, and these snakes may of found a way to survive and now living happily in the area!

Luke