Exotics- Making a Difference!

[reptilian1924]

l to don't like your chances of us ever being allowed to keep and breed exotic Reptiles, we don't wont anymore pest getting into our natural environment and doing so much harm to native wildlife, just like the Cane Toads have done here in Australia.

l personally hope we are never ever allowed to keep & breed exotic Reptiles legally on permit or specialist licence. each and everyone to their own opinion good luck.

 

[abnrmal91]

A group which has a huge part to say in allowing exotics into Australia.

So you say, but who is this mystical group.

Starting to smell alot like troll

 

[Reptile_Maniac]

Okay... Here is a link to the group: Keeping exotic (non-native) animals - Wildlife trade and conservation in Australia

 

[longqi]

Anyone who understands ecological balance must oppose anything like this
Exotics are banned for very good reasons

Show me any valid reason why they should be permitted??
"I want a pretty reptile" is not a valid reason

 

[Kitah]

We already have too many ferals such as cats, dogs, cane toads, camels, pigs, horses, red eared sliders. People on here may be more responsible than a lot of members in the general public, however look at how many 'escapee python threads' have been posted on here over time. Regardless of how 'careful' keepers may be, irresponsible people will still release them into the wild and there will still be escapees. Also, if you allow the importation of exotics, it poses a significant disease risk to both reptiles in captivity, and more importantly, our wild populations.

Sure, I love a lot of the exotic species, but personally I think we have enough ferals, and we don't need any more diseases- the risk of both is too significant.


Summary = risk >>> benefit

 

[waruikazi]

According to that link Wild Life Trade is not a group or a department. It looks more like a policy or information page...

 

[saximus]

Okay... Here is a link to the group: Keeping exotic (non-native) animals - Wildlife trade and conservation in Australia

lol I think you'll find that's not the "wildlife trade group". They are the ones responsible for upholding/making the laws against keeping exotics

 

[Tassie97]

but the people that are saying no, you are also saying if they where imported legally you wouldn't keep them?

who doesn't want a chameleon? c'mon...

 

[abnrmal91]

Haha that's your plan. You got no chance you realise that the in the name of the link it say "conservation" you do realise that conservation means you don't go introducing exotic species.

 

[Australis]

but the people that are saying no, you are also saying if they where imported legally you wouldn't keep them?

I can say i wouldn't... i can obtain legal exotic birds and fish.. but i just always went for the natives for various reasons ive always had this mentality.

who doesn't want a chameleon? c'mon...

I dont.. but i would love some Nangur Spiny Skinks.

 

[longqi]

Thats not an import support group
Thats the Government Department that helps block exotic imports

 

[Ramsayi]

Groundhog day yet again.No amount of discussion on the subject will make one bit of difference.It would have as much of a chance as a snowflake in hell .

 

[Morelia4life]

I keep trying to figure out why everyone wants to be like America. I don't mean that in a rude way, but for all those aussies that want to keep exotics, don't they have any idea as to what they have done to us? I mean to me, Australia has the best reptiles in the world. Carpet pythons, Womas, Black-headed pythons, Frilled Lizards, Blue tongue skinks, I mean what more do you guys want? I for one can tell you how bad exotics can get. Just look at Florida, Texas and California over here in America. They all have exotics but Florida is the worst out of any of them. Florida is the number one place in the world for non native species. We have exotics and sometimes I wish we didn't. I mean we can get anything in the world from Gaboon Vipers to Green Anacondas to Carpet pythons to monitors and look what it has done to us.

Just be careful with what you want. To me, no other place has the amazing diversity of reptiles like Australia does. Why ruin that like we did?

 

[Tassie97]

I just want Australian reptiles in Tasmania that is all I ask :cry:

 

[Carnelian]

I think we should focus more on getting the laws to be universal Oz wide rather than different in every state in regards to what we can have than introducing legal exotics which has the potential to be very damaging to the environment. Everything else we have introduced has had disastrous effects, majority of people are just to dumb to think about how their actions effect more than themselves.

 

[abnrmal91]

Couldn't agree more morelia4life.

 

[Tassie97]

I think we should focus more on getting the laws to be universal Oz wide rather than different in every state in regards to what we can have than introducing legal exotics which has the potential to be very damaging to the environment. Everything else we have introduced has had disastrous effects, majority of people are just to dumb to think about how their actions effect more than themselves.

hell yes! *high fives*

 

[Wally]

I keep trying to figure out why everyone wants to be like America. I don't mean that in a rude way, but for all those aussies that want to keep exotics, don't they have any idea as to what they have done to us? I mean to me, Australia has the best reptiles in the world. Carpet pythons, Womas, Black-headed pythons, Frilled Lizards, Blue tongue skinks, I mean what more do you guys want? I for one can tell you how bad exotics can get. Just look at Florida, Texas and California over here in America. They all have exotics but Florida is the worst out of any of them. Florida is the number one place in the world for non native species. We have exotics and sometimes I wish we didn't. I mean we can get anything in the world from Gaboon Vipers to Green Anacondas to Carpet pythons to monitors and look what it has done to us.

Just be careful with what you want. To me, no other place has the amazing diversity of reptiles like Australia does. Why ruin that like we did?

It's more the urge in some to want what they can't have. A futile exercise not always reserved for the younger generation.

 

[Morelia4life]

It's more the urge in some to want what they can't have. A futile exercise not always reserved for the younger generation.

I understand what you mean. Everything comes with risk though. Have you ever asked yourself what would happen if the Aus government said "you can have any exotic you want"? I know there are people there who wouldn't keep them but what about the millions that would keep them? I don't know how sensitive the environment is there so I can't say what type of damage would result in exotic species. I just know from experience here with exotic species.

You have to take into account the exotics you want. Does Aus have an environment like the exotic's environment? Would predators eat them or would they eat native predators? For ex... not many Aussie animals will be able to kill a 15 foot Burmese Python or a 20 foot Reticulated python. Hell not many animals there can kill the Cane toad. What affects has the Cane toad alone had there? Just questions you have to ask yourself.

 

[Colin]

we can make a difference!!! Its up to us

you could always start a "we need 1,000,000 people to "like" this page to bring in exotic reptiles to australia" Facebook Group and then you can show the government dudes to impressive them..
just a thought anyway..