candycaine
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I found this site it show's that catagory that the australian pythons species fall under.
The Reptiles of Australia, Python page
The Reptiles of Australia, Python page
You saying they don't have feelings? I swear whenever I say mean things to my pythons, especially the honey-ice-jungle-cape-yorks, they go all sooky. It's at these times they most like to be petted and stroked, spoken to in gentle, kind tones and soothed of their hurts.
The most successful breeder keep carpets in sound-proof boxes to avoid them overhearing any conversation they may construe as negative. That way no snakes get hurt feelings.
its true, my coastal is very ... modest. i swear he gets embarressed when he has to go to the toilet, and when i talk to him, i know he listens!You saying they don't have feelings? I swear whenever I say mean things to my pythons, especially the honey-ice-jungle-cape-yorks, they go all sooky. It's at these times they most like to be petted and stroked, spoken to in gentle, kind tones and soothed of their hurts.
The most successful breeder keep carpets in sound-proof boxes to avoid them overhearing any conversation they may construe as negative. That way no snakes get hurt feelings.
Sometimes you have to go beyond internet forums to find out "real" information.
ok waterrat can you find information of what you where saying before about the 3 species names and how everything else comes under those as sub species? something the rest of us can have a sticky at. I'd be interested to see what your talking about and if it has any info about the cape york then that would be great. seeing there mainly what I keeps and have kept for 6 years I'd like to find out as much as possible about this species.
Go into primary literature (i.e. scientific papers) and look up work done by Rawlings & Donnellan). I have done my homework, you can do yours. lol
Talk to leading professional herpetologists (not amateur pet keepers) and listen to their views on that subject. Sometimes you have to beyond internet forums to find out "real" information.
Understand and agree that it is suspect by definition due to the manner of its publication but, in spite of that, is the content (minus the rants and personal attacks) worth reading or do you think it would be too difficult for an amateur to separate the useful information from the dross? Many of us would much prefer to get our information only from peer reviewed journals but are limited by time and competing calls on our resources to using the internet for much of our "hobby" research.Hoser's article is not considered science because it is not published in a peer-reviewed journal. The publications in which said articles regularly appear are as much "science" as something that you print on your PC, give to your friends and disseminate via the internet. I would only recommend said articles as examples of how best not to achieve a reputable career in science.
Science, per se, is a construct of a large body of qualified researchers who value external reviews of their work, and submit it for genuine academic critique and often outright rejection, prior to publication in peer reviewed journals.
is the content (minus the rants and personal attacks) worth reading or do you think it would be too difficult for an amateur to separate the useful information from the dross?
That's a fairly under-appreciative standpoint! You'll likely see less subspecies recognised in the future with advances in classification allowing the eradication of splitters who just like to name things because they look different.Cutting through all the academic species stance, it doesn’t matter if DNA benchmarks set by scientists tell the reptile keeping community that a jungle carpet is the same species as a diamond python or not because even a three 3 year child could tell you that they look different and the majority of keepers and dealers will always split them, and for good reason. Could it be that the scientists are the ones who are behind the eight ball simply because current science isn’t yet good enough to identify the genetic material differences that make a diamond python or a Jungle carpet. Even if scientific knowledge one day does get clever enough, I have to wonder if those benchmarks whatever they are, will change and we see more sub-species recognised.