What is going on with prices?

[Waterrat]

URS said they have 200 eggs, no mention of price. You replied they'll be under $1000.- this year. Three minutes later, in this thread you claim they be under 500 in no time.
I am sure everybody here appreciates your point of view.

Don't give yourself heart attack, I am not worth it.

 

[Jungletrans]

l just have to laugh when everyone is blaming the backyard breeder with their one cluch for the over supply . Wouldnt have anything to do with the hundreds of full time breeders with their hundreds of tubs full of breeding snakes now would it ? A few people might have to get a job like the rest of us . And by the way l didnt breed anything this year , l'm waiting for some very interesting pythons to mature .

 

[Jay84]

l just have to laugh when everyone is blaming the backyard breeder with their one cluch for the over supply . Wouldnt have anything to do with the hundreds of full time breeders with their hundreds of tubs full of breeding snakes now would it ? A few people might have to get a job like the rest of us . And by the way l didnt breed anything this year , l'm waiting for some very interesting pythons to mature .

+1

 

[Wookie]

Its basically what you want the market to be. A buyers market or sellers market. For a hobbyist, mass breeding is ideal, as it gives access to cheaper pets. I guess taking the commercialism out of herps would be good in that respect, though in the long term would low profit margins make breeders more likely to give up, as it becomes less economically viable?

 

[carpetpythongurl]

l just have to laugh when everyone is blaming the backyard breeder with their one cluch for the over supply . Wouldnt have anything to do with the hundreds of full time breeders with their hundreds of tubs full of breeding snakes now would it ? A few people might have to get a job like the rest of us . And by the way l didnt breed anything this year , l'm waiting for some very interesting pythons to mature .

+2

 

[SamNabz]

No matter how many breeders there are out there, if you breed quality animals there is always someone willing to pay the deserving price tag.

 

[SamNabz]

Well carpetpythongurl where did you get this information? You say they will sell them under $1000 cause they have a couple hundred eggs?
Why would they sell them cheaper cause they have so many? They have a big breeding facility and obviously deal with a huge amount of eggs, I highly doubt they would sell them cheaper because there's so many.

 

[Jungle_Freak]

I don't let variable prices each year get my knickers in a knot.
Ill just go with the flow .
Especially since I have no control on what prices are set by other people who want to breed there reptiles .
Everyone is entitled to breed there pets as they see fit as far as im concerned .

 

[Waterrat]

Personal insults aside - how do you think your prediction / calculation / imagination helped anybody? Wouldn't it be wise to wait for URS to announce their price and then comment rather than making comments that don't have any foundation?

By the way, I am not a full-time breeder, nor I produce any quantities of reptiles to speak off. The yearlings I have now for sale are the product of 2009 breeding. Wow, 22 of them, that's going to flood the market!

 

[Wally]

Everyone is entitled to breed there pets as they see fit as far as im concerned .

And everyone is entitled to set the price of said reptiles as far as I'm concerned.

 

[Jungle_Freak]

and everyone is entitled to set the price of said reptiles as far as i'm concerned.

exactly right wally

 

[carpetpythongurl]

Well carpetpythongurl where did you get this information? You say they will sell them under $1000 cause they have a couple hundred eggs?
Why would they sell them cheaper cause they have so many? They have a big breeding facility and obviously deal with a huge amount of eggs, I highly doubt they would sell them cheaper because there's so many.

i didnt say THEY would sell them any cheaper i said the price will drop, because alot of big breeders are producing large numbers an example was urs

 

[tonesanlainie]

When demand is overtaken by supply prices go down, we all know that. But at the same time it really mean competition is spawned and the price is re-adjusted accordingly. If no one dropped their prices, regardless, then prices would remain unchanged!!! In reality lower pricing means greater accessibility and the opportuinty to grow the hobby. I remember an old saying that something is only worth what someone else will pay for it.

Cheers

 

[bigi]

Obviously supply is larger than demand, clearly illustrated in this thread by people moving animals on to make room for more.
For me it is a hobby,i like owning my critters, careing for them, they are awesome, and i will never even break even, thats not what im interested in, however i do understand it is a business for many, and a business must earn money to survive.
I am interested in people breeding reptiles for restocking wild populations, i think some effort should be made by people in the industry or hobbie to put into the wild population as fish restocking has done for many years, god knows we are loosing more reptiles than ever with poisens and cane toads

 

[stockhorse]

what's going on with prices

Have I missed something when I blinked? Licences for cat & dog breeders :all animals they sell are neutered:
That is so far from reality,you can not show a neutered dog or cat,and you do not need a licence to breed pedigree dogs or otherwise.You do require the animals to be registered with the controlling body (sir and dame). But only if you want to register the puppies with that controlling body.

Requiring snake owners to register to breed will simply mean that sales "off the books" to unlicenced owners will increase.

Prices will always fluctuate and there will always be a variety of reasons for increase or decrease in prices.The number of people making a living from breeding also fluctuates and downsizing or deleting certain breeds from the collection become part of moving with the flow and ebb of supply and demand.
A good look at aussie farmers "survival' techniques is not a bad pattern to follow.

 

[byron_moses]

Have I missed something when I blinked? Licences for cat & dog breeders :all animals they sell are neutered:
That is so far from reality,you can not show a neutered dog or cat,and you do not need a licence to breed pedigree dogs or otherwise.You do require the animals to be registered with the controlling body (sir and dame). But only if you want to register the puppies with that controlling body.

Requiring snake owners to register to breed will simply mean that sales "off the books" to unlicenced owners will increase.

Prices will always fluctuate and there will always be a variety of reasons for increase or decrease in prices.The number of people making a living from breeding also fluctuates and downsizing or deleting certain breeds from the collection become part of moving with the flow and ebb of supply and demand.
A good look at aussie farmers "survival' techniques is not a bad pattern to follow.

what do u mean by u cant show a desexed cat or dog?

 

[chase77]

what do u mean by u cant show a desexed cat or dog?

exactly as byron wrote. You cant show desexed cats and dogs at shows ie royal easter show

 

[byron_moses]

exactly as byron wrote. You cant show desexed cats and dogs at shows ie royal easter show

sorry guys thats not true mate u can

 

[stockhorse]

Part of the rules for showing pure breed dogs is that puppies must be entire(both testes decended) It is to deter the breeding of certain bloodlines that breeds infertile or possibly infertile offspring.There is a vet check at every show that examines the dogs for decended testes and if only one is present you are not allowed to show thw dog.That means desexed dogs do not qualify for showing.Thus why I pay high council fees for my non desexed showdogs.

 

[cris]

Personal insults aside - how do you think your prediction / calculation / imagination helped anybody? Wouldn't it be wise to wait for URS to announce their price and then comment rather than making comments that don't have any foundation?

By the way, I am not a full-time breeder, nor I produce any quantities of reptiles to speak off. The yearlings I have now for sale are the product of 2009 breeding. Wow, 22 of them, that's going to flood the market!

I think you take these topics far to personally, you actually have something that will be in high demand for many years to come(although its unrealistic for the price to maintain as many will bred what you sell to them), compared to many others you seem to be selling snakes very quickly and at what i would consider a reasonable or even cheap price(although still out of most peoples budgets if they dont consider it a breeding investment). Chill out mate.