Hi Shane,
Please read your reply to me and then re-read it again.
I posted some pics of a friends gtp a while back and Rina (your side-kick) posted that particular post. Since then you have discredited Mark's jungle saying it was crossed with a vairegata and Brown's jungle that you accused of being crossed with a diamond. (as Rina has just 'suggested' again in the above post - gushing to your defence yet again)
You are the one who discredits peoples animals while trying to promote your own.
My post is a little taste of your own medicine
with your own words - you didnt like it did you?
Think before you discredit peoples animals in the future.
http://www.aussiepythons.com/index....amp;postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=15
Others have a looong memory too.
Now for my words,
You spruick about the amnesty and exotic gtp's to further your commercial interest, stating you have aussie gtps.
How about we prove it, send me a skin shed and I will take it for dna testing. Now-a-days they can prove the difference between cape york and png gtps. I will hand all findings over to NPWS. I will immediately offer an apology if they are australian OR you can have them seized and destroyed if they are not. (your beliefs are so strong regarding exotics and locality you couldnt live with yourself unless you did euthanize them, could you? Please dont release them!)
How many aussie gtps have you actually seen? They look physically different than png animals with different markings.
http://www.aussiepythons.com/module...;include=view_photo.phpinclude=view_photo.php
http://www.aussiepythons.com/module...ery&file=index&include=view_photo.php
I hope Bob Withey doesnt mind me quoting a post he made some time ago on Yahoo.
"Unfortunately, there are very few True Aussie Green Tree Pythons held incaptivity in Australia. I am aware of only 7 held in this country, 5 thatwere bred from legally collected specimens and 2 that were legallycollected. Alas, they are now all well over 15 years of age with littlechance of breeding. There may be a few more that were collected illegallyand claimed on an amnesty that I am not aware of, but have yet to hear ofany. And the Queensland government does not appear willing to ever allow anymore to be legally collected from the wild.Just about all the other Green Tree Pythons held in this country that I haveseen in collections and on web sites are exotics(non Australian specimens).True Aussie GTP have a distinct colour pattern(see Barkers Pythons ofAustralia book). Their green colouration is totally a different shade totheir overseas cousins, being a far lighter green. They appear to only havespotted markings of either yellow or white spread in a line running abovetheir backbone. They also lack the blue blotches and blue lines over theirbodies that the overseas one have.All Aussie GTP's that I have seen over the past 20 years, plus every photoof them in the wild from Cape York have ALL had the same basic pattern andcolour.20 Years ago I argued that there were different Children'sPython species due to the differences in patterns from different parts ofAustralia. Most said I was wrong, but here today we now recognise they aredivided into 3 different species. 20 years ago I argued that there weredifferent Carpet Pythons around Australia and again, most said I was wrong.Yet here again today we now recognise the different species.Well its been the same with the Aussie GTP's. I have argued with peoplethat their GTP'S were not Australian. Of cause they state there is no way totell the difference and their's must be Australian and you can not proveotherwise.But those days are coming to an end. Ray Hoser has now described theAustralian GTP as a separate sub species, different to their overseascousins. Also, a great book on GTP's has now been published. The CompleteChondro Manual. This book shows the different colour variants from thedifferent locations of the overseas GTP's. In this book Greg mentions thatthe Cape York GTP is genetically closely related to the southern New Guineaspecies, but alas he only had a pic of a PNG specimen which is differentlycoloured. He assures me he will have a pic of an Aussie specimen when thebook is reprinted.For those interested, buy the Complete Chondro book and compare Greg'sidentification with the GTP's on our Australian web pages. Its funny howmost look almost identical to the Aru Island specimens. I also heard that afew young GTP's that were purchased last year as Australian were DNA testedat the S.A. Museum and were found to be the Aru Island species.I personally would not pay huge amounts of money for a GTP hatchling withoutseeing the adults and being sure they were Australian. I would always havethe fear that one day the authorities may realise the people are keepingexotic GTP's hidden on Australian permits and seize them.RegardsBob"
People,
Please form your own opinion on whether Shanes gtps are definitely australian. I have doubts and I hope that Shane can clear this up for us.
As you see Shane, It is not nice to discredit peoples' animals. They might get annoyed with you and serve it back to you some day.
Kind Regards,
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