Obee,
You ask about my breedings and also question there reliablity. Well I can assure you, I had two clutches of Greens from my pair from Rob Bredl. Out of these I GAVE, yes thats right, gave at no cost, over a dozen to some of my friends. I kept the remaining for my own colony. So weres all my progeny you ask. Well ask John Osea of the Queensland Fauna Squad. His mission in life was to have all Greens confiscated so no one would have any.
Just after Buckley's were seized, Oshea then came after mine. After a huge raid at my dwelling Osea had all my Greens taken, and then confiscated all those I had given away to my friends. I had 18 adults at the time of the raid. All went to Taronga, as well as Buckleys 27 hatchlings, plus a dozen that were seized coming into Brisbane from overseas and in a period of 2 years over 60 Greens died at Taronga Zoo.
They also tried to have Tims siezed in SA, but SA NPWS would not have a bar of it, luckerly.
In 1997, I was finally returned what was left. Two males, one which was my male from Rob Bredl, the other a PNG male that had my females microchip in it. Someone at the Zoo had swapped my snake for an exotic. It was also widely known that this same Taronga keeper was in fact selling Buckley's hatchlings for a thousand each. An investigation was made and it was found over half of the alledged dead greens were unaccounted for at the zoo.
This was the end of my breeding Aussie Greens, so Oshea got his wish. You can read about my trouble with Oshea in Hosers book, Smuggled 2. If Oshea had not siezed my 18 adult Greens, I would have bred literally hundreds by now and the price would have been around $1000, not the huge amount that is now being asked for them at present.
As for you saying I am wrong about Ad stating your Green pictures were seen by over 30 US breeders who identified them as PNG's, I refer you to read back to page 3 or 4 of this thread were he clearly states those facts. Am I wrong in stating whats on this thread. I think not again.
As for Buckley's origional breeding. He only had two greens to start with. Try not to infer he may have had several others as well as the Taronga PNG .
Now for your DNA evidence. You are correct. Aussie Greens and Southern PNGS are nearly the same, with not enough difference to put up a 100% legal aguement in court. So how does that prove yours is Australian or PNG. It doesnt prove either way. You can not prove your is either an Australian or PNG. Arn't we lucky however, that it appears every photo taken of an Australian Green, as well as every one collected in the past and at the present by David Wilson(not Williams) have all shown to have the same basic colouration. Even the 5 females Wilson found with the few Blue blotches still shared the basic colouration and markings.
Tims and yours, Obee, are the only Australians that do not share this common colour and marking trait. In fact they are identical to the markings and colour of the PNG Greens. Could this mean that Buckley was not lying when he testified in court that he had bred from the Taronga Zoo PNG specimem, hense the PNG colouring. Or are we to believe you that Buckley was mistaken, that the 30 US herps that Ad mentioned are also wrong and do not know what they are talking about,that even though yours do match pic's in Maxwells book that it is wrong also, and that after all my involvement with Aussie Greens and my knowledge of Buckley that I am also mistaken.It seems to me that the mounting evidence tends to lean towards the fact that you may be mistaken with your claim of Aussie Greens.
Why did Queensland NPWS allow you to keep yours on a specialist licence. Simple. Buckley beat them in court and yours are decendants of his.
that makes alot of sence to me, i had been told by many people that they were aussie, i had my doubts as you had told me about it a while back but them someone said they had been deemed aussie by NPWS, but in fact they had been deemed legal PNGs.
