I don't see how it would work or be policed?
You are correct Jay, it will not work. All it will do is allow buyers to purchase animals from a few designated 'pure sellers' and get a piece of paper stating it. I don't want to put anyone down as if they have time to burn, why not set it up however, any keeper that has been around the traps for more than 10 minutes already knows which breeders have pure species ect.
What are they trying to achieve? A piece of paper stating that the purchased offspring comes from a Pure Antaresia stimsoni x Antaresia stimsoni pairing???????????
It is pointless IMO and it would not be worth the paper it is written on unless they were from wild caught stock from the exact same locales. I would not bother to breed a Broome locale A. stimsoni with a Georgetown locale A. stimsoni. The two animals look nothing alike, come from extremely different environments and are different sizes.
A registry will never change my mind when it comes to pure reptiles as too many people have no idea about the natural environments and habits of the animals that they are saying.
I do not like hybrids, I actually despise them however I will defend hybrid keepers in this post as IMO breeding an Antaresia from 4000kms apart, regardless if they are the same species, is no better than breeding a Palmerston Jungle with a Proserpine Carpet.
The entire Morelia and Antaresia genuses are so mixed up in natural occurring WILD animals, I think that the only way an animal can be deemed pure should be from animals from the same immediate area.
With the current state of many Australian species were the taxonomists can't even agree, surely, locale specific animals are the only animals that should be deemed pure.
Whilst I am having a whinge, animals could at best be called pure if they are from the same region i.e, Sandfire Stimsoni bred with a Port Hedland Stimsoni = Pure Pilbara Stimsoni.
I think that breeding M.s. cheynei from Milla Milla with a M.s. cheynei from Upper Daragee still equals a pure Palmerston M.s. cheynei even though they are not both from Milla Milla ect however IMO breeding a BHP from Sandfire (black and white, less than 6 feet as adults) with a Quamby BHP (dirty, big & brown 10 foot long) is worth as much to a region / locale specific pure keeper as a Diamond x Jungle.
All they are is a captive creation, made by man in unnatural environments, for the pet industry. Most people would not say two words about the BHP offspring even though the two adult BHP that created the hatchlings have as much in common as the Diamond x Jungle cross, whilst many people would make snide remarks about the Morelia cross.
What does my entire whinge of a post have in relation to the colour topic of this thread???????
Everything.
Unless it is a hard to get species, we would all like the best example of the snake as we can. Why would you want a man made turd coloured snake like a Honey Jungle (biggest joke of a name ever) when we could have a vivid black and fluro yellow example like Nev posted?????????????? If they both were identical in size, temperament and housing requirements, who would want to turd coloured Honey Jungle? Not me!
As captive reptile keepers, all we can try and do is representing the animals in as best as we can to their natural environments. The animals we keep will never be released back into the wild however sensible keepers (not serious keepers Krefft, as I agree, there are plenty of serious hybrid keepers ) should be worried if their Jaguars escaped into the wild and mated with a wild Morelia.
I am over the Jag and hybrid debates as the snakes are here to stay. If a Rough Scaled Python escaped in Brisbane, it it bred with a locale carpet, it is still a hybrid (and probable a dog ugly one at that)!
If a Jaguar escaped in the wild and mated with a female Morelia from the same area (nice looking hatchlings), it is still no more of a hybrid that the RSP cross however it is of much greater risk to the eco system and immediate habitat as within 10 years there could be hundreds of neuro ridden pythons which could lead to disaster.
At the end of the day, I think that the Australian reptile scene has taken a turn for the worse. The hobby is full of morons who have no idea about the snakes they are keeping in boxes, no idea and no interest in field herping compared to previous generations of keepers and full of people breeding hundreds of unwanted snakes each year.
I liked the fact that 20 years ago you could buy a Jungle for $100 and there were less than 10 keepers breeding them regularly. All animals found homes each season and people looked forward to putting their names on a waiting list each year to get animals and keepers swapped and exchanged herps that interested them. Breeding snakes was a challenge as there was bugger all information on the captive breeding of many species.
I would like to go back in time and rewind SOME aspects of herping however many things have improved in the 21st century I guess.........................
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